1106611218 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106611293 M * axu_ hmm, ok, it doesnt work :) 1106611348 M * Doener any messages? 1106611422 M * axu_ yeah, the update-rc.d part fails 1106611451 M * axu_ also the rest executed via vserver exec 1106611468 M * axu_ i have that fixed in a minute :) 1106611527 M * axu_ ok, without the "" it should work :) 1106611660 M * Doener hmm... 1106611674 M * Doener i wouldn't try that... 1106611687 M * axu_ i do, i allready found another bug... ;9 1106611716 M * Doener for i in `echo $REMOVE_SERVICES`;do vserver $VSERVERNAME exec "cd /etc/init.d;update-rc.d -f $i remove"; done 1106611722 M * Doener you ran that one without the " 1106611725 M * Doener ? 1106611728 M * axu_ no, you must also remove cd :) 1106611737 M * axu_ mom, i upload the corrected version 1106611765 M * Doener ok, then it's fine... with the cd, you would have modified the host's runlevels *g* 1106611790 M * Doener with bash -c it should work as well 1106611803 M * Doener but just update-rc.d is fine, too 1106611962 M * axu_ rm: cannot remove directory `/vservers/TEST01/proc': Device or resource busy 1106611987 M * axu_ hmm, anyway to force unmounting of those (not visable in the rootserver via df -mTa) ? 1106611995 M * Doener is the vserver by chance still running? 1106612011 M * axu_ no 1106612022 M * Doener double check with vserver-stat please 1106612025 M * axu_ vserver-stat says so 1106612043 M * axu_ is there another way to check but with vser-stat ? 1106612053 M * axu_ ok, one can try to enter ;) 1106612057 M * Doener vps -A 1106612076 M * Doener enter only works if the tools 'think' the vserver is running 1106612093 M * axu_ hmm, all MAIN and 2 lines ALL_PROC 1106612115 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106612134 M * Doener ALL_PROC is context 1 aka spectator, that's where vps is working 1106612151 M * Doener weird... 1106612155 M * axu_ well 1106612167 M * Doener what about ls /proc/virtual 1106612202 M * axu_ there i see ctx 10 1106612211 M * Doener ok, kernel version? 1106612221 M * axu_ 2.6.10 1106612224 M * axu_ UseCnt: 3 1106612224 M * Doener and to 'fix' that, try: mount -o remount /proc 1106612224 M * axu_ RefCnt: 1 1106612224 M * axu_ Flags: 0000000002000010 1106612224 M * axu_ BCaps: ffffffffd44c04ff 1106612224 M * axu_ CCaps: 0000000000000101 1106612226 M * axu_ Ticks: 0 1106612246 M * axu_ cool, that did it :) 1106612271 M * axu_ 2.6.10 vanilla 1106612274 M * axu_ btw 1106612280 M * Doener ok, i never figured out what really causes that, but Bertl said it's kind of vanilla related... 1106612304 M * axu_ ic, well, not that big deal remounting /proc 1106612305 M * Doener basically a strange behaviour of proc when it comes to removing entries 1106612322 M * axu_ i can live with that :) 1106612782 Q * axu_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106612782 J * axu__ ~Axu@81.223.125.177 1106612798 M * axu__ well, that happens if you play around with bleeding edge technology ;) 1106612805 M * Doener *g* 1106612826 M * axu__ system hang, not even sysctl worked :) 1106612843 M * Doener systl? sysrq i guess? 1106612850 M * Doener s/systl/sysctl/ 1106612854 M * axu__ ahh, yeah, you are right : 1106612858 M * Doener ;) 1106612880 M * Doener just checking if i'm still awake or should inject coffee 1106612890 M * axu__ :) 1106612919 M * axu__ Doener: where are you located ? 1106612926 Q * jsambrook Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106612933 M * axu__ (to meassure time) 1106612977 M * Doener germany, north of northrhine-westfalia 1106612991 M * axu__ also verstehst mich doch :) 1106613018 M * Doener sure, but others won't ;) 1106613048 M * axu__ well, its i semi prvate conversation in the public then. like in rl :) 1106613058 M * Doener heh 1106613085 M * axu__ and i dont talk technical stuff in a language that only few people in here do understand 1106613199 M * Doener i don't like seeing stuff i don't understand (language-wise), i always think "hey, you could have talked in private as well...", so i just stick to speaking english in here 1106613242 M * axu__ Doener: i understand what you mean. but thats not how conversation in natural environments works :) 1106613375 M * axu__ Doener: if i see something i dont understand it it looks interesting enough for me to waste my time on it, i would google for it :) 1106613388 M * axu__ s/it/and/ 1106613412 M * axu__ or ask ;) 1106613443 M * Doener most of the time i tend to ignore it and the person gets a minus in my blacklist (a small one ;) 1106613457 M * axu__ huch ;) 1106613473 M * axu__ what can i do to get back to 0 ? :) 1106613510 M * Doener talk french for some time... but that may also get you /ignore'd *g* 1106613543 M * axu__ i really dont want to be part of someones blacklist :) lets say on a non female humans blacklist ;) 1106613558 M * axu__ Doener: you dream of.. :) 1106613585 M * Doener you like being on females' blacklists? 1106613649 M * axu__ ok, thats called black book, or redbook... hmmm :) 1106613666 M * Doener hehe 1106613668 M * axu__ forget it ;) 1106613776 M * axu__ hmm almos 2. allwas a hard time 1106613825 M * axu__ should i prepare to get a sleep. or prepare to get on going for another 3 hours 1106614068 M * axu__ i get asleep 1106614077 M * axu__ good night channel. god night doener 1106614084 Q * axu__ Quit: Leaving 1106616854 Q * chrish01 Quit: Leaving 1106618673 J * meebey meebey@meebey.net 1106619376 Q * nacl Remote host closed the connection 1106619492 J * nacl ~nacl@dsl093-174-016.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1106619639 J * tchan_ ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net 1106619753 Q * tchan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106621059 Q * tchan_ Quit: leaving 1106621206 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106621467 Q * meebey Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106622009 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net 1106622607 Q * aba uranium.oftc.net plasma.oftc.net 1106622607 Q * berni uranium.oftc.net plasma.oftc.net 1106622631 J * aba ~aba@sol.turmzimmer.net 1106622631 J * berni ~berni@2001:1b18:202::2 1106628312 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106630223 J * Marlow ~marlow@217.67.139.197 1106634830 Q * ola Remote host closed the connection 1106634839 J * ola ~ola@c-adt-5.ataco.se 1106636845 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106637226 Q * _are_ Quit: Disconnecting 1106637630 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106637635 J * lilo ~lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net 1106640908 Q * mcp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106640914 J * ntrs_ ntrs@Dardeene-68.188.50.87.charter-stl.com 1106641095 Q * TheSeer iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * hesus iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * Seraph iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * maharaja iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * ntrs iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * weasel iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * Plug iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641095 Q * locksy iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1106641185 J * Seraph kk@projects.verfaction.de 1106641213 J * weasel ~weasel@seppia.noreply.org 1106641215 J * maharaja maharaja@ipax.at 1106641215 J * Plug ~plug@datadot.net 1106641451 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.salesemotion.net 1106641451 J * hesus darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl 1106641497 J * mcp ~hightower@81.17.110.148 1106641759 J * prae ~prae@ezoffice.mandrakesoft.com 1106641886 M * prae *morning* 1106642957 M * Marlow morning 1106643879 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106643888 J * jsambroo1 ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106643945 Q * jsambroo1 Quit: 1106643960 J * jsambroo1 ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106644075 Q * jsambrook Quit: 1106644092 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106644126 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1106644140 M * Bertl morning folks! 1106644415 M * eyck_ morning 1106644419 N * eyck_ eyck 1106644428 M * Bertl morning eyck! 1106644515 M * eyck morning, morning. how's hanging 1106644593 M * matti Bertl: :-) 1106644604 M * Bertl eyck: everything 'hanging' in the right place ;) 1106644616 M * Bertl morning matti! 1106644618 Q * BWare Remote host closed the connection 1106644677 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.41 1106644732 M * matti Morning Bertl ;> 1106644811 A * Marlow is heading in the kitchen for more coffee 1106644831 M * Marlow s/in the/in the direction of the/ 1106644838 M * Marlow coffee ... as i said 1106644840 M * Marlow :o) 1106644841 M * matti Marlow: Want some milk? 1106644849 M * matti :> 1106644851 M * Marlow matti : nope ... black .. no milk, no sugar 1106644859 M * matti Whoa, pure hardcore ;] 1106645592 Q * jsambroo1 Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1106645604 Q * jsambrook Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1106645661 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1106647201 J * Duckx ~duckx@195.75.27.158 1106647279 M * Bertl welcome jsambrook, Duckx! 1106647500 M * Duckx hy :) 1106647518 Q * Medivh orion.oftc.net charm.oftc.net 1106647518 Q * ndim orion.oftc.net charm.oftc.net 1106647518 Q * v00dY orion.oftc.net charm.oftc.net 1106647709 J * ndim U2FsdGVkX1@helena.bawue.de 1106647711 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1106647711 J * v00dY v00dy@62.241.52.143 1106647871 J * locksy ~locksy@mrtg.sisgroup.com.au 1106647881 M * Bertl welcome locksy! 1106648971 M * TheSeer Bertl: morning :) 1106648983 M * TheSeer I have a maybe dump question ;) 1106649004 M * TheSeer i installed mysql in a vserver a couple of days back and started it 1106649007 M * TheSeer nothing else 1106649011 M * TheSeer just had it runing 1106649022 M * TheSeer no conenctions, no database, nothing.. just pure running 1106649036 M * TheSeer bynow vserver-stat shows a >400MB usage of memory 1106649061 M * TheSeer as soon as i stop mysql, the usage drops to ~1MB 1106649072 M * Bertl hmm, interesting ... but what does /proc/virtual//limit show? 1106649131 M * TheSeer [root@core mysql]# cat /proc/virtual/49182/limit 1106649131 M * TheSeer PROC: 10 13 -1 0 1106649131 M * TheSeer VM: 27314 29421 -1 0 1106649131 M * TheSeer VML: 0 0 -1 0 1106649131 M * TheSeer RSS: 12642 13789 -1 0 1106649132 M * TheSeer FILES: 102 112 -1 0 1106649134 M * TheSeer SOCK: 2 2 -1 0 1106649158 M * TheSeer as i said, i just restarted mysql 1106649177 M * Bertl no problem, the second column is the maximum observed 1106649178 M * TheSeer i'm not quite sure wether this is a mysql or a vserver/kernel related isue? 1106649204 M * Bertl and you are using about 50MB rss which is a lot 1106649250 M * TheSeer according to vserver-stat it's 12.3k 1106649261 M * TheSeer 49182 10 106.6M 12.3K 1106649287 M * Bertl the values are just wrong ... 1106649798 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.2.10, devel 1.9.{3,4-rc3}, ng8.12 1106649798 T * Bertl - 1106650147 J * BobR_zZ ~georg@MAIL.13thfloor.at 1106650294 Q * Marlow Quit: gone 1106651439 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1106651468 M * Bertl back now ... 1106651679 M * Loki|muh how is the number of open files limited in a vserver? or globally? 1106651835 M * Bertl FILES and with 1.9.4-rc3 OPENFD does limit that per vserver 1106652078 M * Loki|muh where is this FILES? i don't find it in the kernel nor in the flower page nor in utils-configuration :( 1106652144 M * Bertl look at /proc/virtual//limit 1106652160 M * Bertl it is configured as limit for each vserver 1106652227 M * Bertl /etc/vservers/vserver-name/rlimits 1106652229 M * Bertl A directory with resource limits. Possible resources are cpu, fsize, data, stack, core, rss, nproc, nofile, memlock, as and locks. 1106652241 M * Bertl nofile = FILES 1106652292 M * Loki|muh ah thanks 1106652294 M * Loki|muh :) 1106652355 M * Bertl OPENFD is not present in the tools yet ... 1106652375 M * Bertl (nevertheless you can set it with vlimit 1106652378 M * Bertl +) 1106652586 J * Mega\work ~Megabart2@host112-101.pool80183.interbusiness.it 1106652591 M * Mega\work Hi all 1106652635 M * Bertl greetings Mega\work! 1106652771 M * Mega\work :D 1106652792 M * Mega\work Bertl, is possible run dhcpd in vserver? 1106652811 M * Bertl hmm, guess so, but it doesn't make sense ... 1106652829 M * Mega\work ???? 1106652947 M * Bertl well, you want to give out dhcpd addresses to clients right? 1106652967 M * Mega\work yes 1106652996 M * Bertl so you need to have raw network access to receive the broadcasts and answer them accordingly 1106653035 M * Mega\work ok, i must to install dhcp server in host right? 1106653063 M * Bertl well, you can do it inside a vserver too, but the vserver won't be 'very' secure 1106653101 M * Bertl such services are usually better done on the host, maybe using the chroot or vnamespace tool 1106653119 M * Mega\work ok 1106653153 M * Loki|muh Bertl: is CAP_NET_RAW a big security risk? 1106653183 M * aba yes. 1106653207 M * aba (well, it gives you the possibility to do _anything_ with the network) 1106653217 M * Bertl not so fast! 1106653226 M * Bertl that's CAP_NET_ADMIN 1106653263 M * Bertl Loki|muh: CAP_NET_RAW allows you to tcpdump other vserver traffic and send arbitrary packets ... 1106653286 M * Loki|muh ah okay 1106653293 M * aba Bertl: that's what I meant. 1106653352 M * Mega\work noprob, i use dhcp server in host and use chroot to give security ad the service 1106653472 M * Bertl yes, you can utilize the namespace jail or amke use of the barrier too .. it's all modular 1106655859 J * _are_ ~are@gateway-dsl.lihas.de 1106655885 M * _are_ hi 1106655917 A * _are_ just got the ok to build another vserver on top of drbd and lvm :-) 1106655952 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106656421 J * bro ~vanity@lanparty.lv 1106656444 M * Bertl welcome _are_, sannes, bro! 1106656552 M * bro hiya Bertl 1106656574 M * bro Bertl, ive got a question for u ;> regarding that mail bout kernel panic 1106656616 M * Bertl hmm, yeah? 1106656622 M * bro u told me to send output of addr2line 1106656635 M * bro ive got a lil` problem there 1106656637 M * Bertl if possible, yes 1106656654 M * bro may i paste it here? 1106656659 M * bro 2 lines only :> 1106656663 M * Bertl sure 1106656669 M * bro ??:0 1106656676 M * bro :/usr/src/linux# addr2line -e vmlinux c0128c76 1106656676 M * bro ??:0 1106656679 M * bro doh 1106656692 M * Bertl just means that you haven't enabled debug symbols for the kernel 1106656706 M * bro oh 1106656731 M * Bertl hmm, but your oops had debug symbols compiled in ... strange 1106656740 M * Bertl yes 1106656752 M * Bertl it shows vx_tokens_recalc 1106656757 M * bro yep 1106656772 M * bro with -f used in addr2line 1106656833 M * Bertl ah, okay, so just 'basic' debug info compiled in ... 1106656869 M * Bertl well, np, but until 1.9.5 is out, I'd advise to avoid preemption 1106656896 M * bro hmm, how soon could that be? 1106656903 M * bro i mean, 1.9.5 coming out 1106656912 M * Bertl well 1.9.4 is about to be released ... 1106656979 M * bro oh, mkay then :> 1106656981 M * bro tnx 1106656987 M * bro keep up the good work ;> 1106656995 Q * bro Quit: Don't squeeze the BitchX 1106659456 M * TheSeer Bertl: what does the VSZ figure tell me? *g* 1106659466 M * TheSeer in the vserver-stats output 1106659497 M * Bertl it's the sum of all address spaces of all threads in that vserver ... 1106659533 M * Bertl something like, together the people in this room are 147feet high ... 1106660111 Q * BWare Remote host closed the connection 1106660166 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.41 1106660685 M * Val hi 1106660697 M * Bertl hey Val! 1106660700 M * Val Bertl : hey :) 1106660764 M * Val Bertl : on debian sources subject, 2.4.29 is not going to be published coming days, actualy only 2.4.27 sources are packaged :-/ 1106660805 M * Val And next stable release kernel is 2.4.27 1106660834 M * _are_ :-/ 1106660873 M * Val It will be great to make a 1.2.10 backport for 2.4.27 1106661056 M * Val Bertl : i think we can start from debian related 1.29 patch 1106661070 M * Val ...for the 2.4.27 1106661187 M * Bertl hmm, let's see, if it requires too much backporting, it will have to wait 1106661444 M * Val diffs between vanilla 2.4.27 are there : http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/kernel-patch-debian-2.4.27.tar.bz2 1106661470 M * Val current 1.29+quota debian path in the same dir 1106661503 Q * Hollow Quit: Leaving 1106661524 M * Bertl which extension is this? 2.4.27-?? 1106661550 M * Val 8 1106661558 M * Bertl tx 1106661568 M * Val np :) 1106661619 M * Bertl argh! could you please make it _one_ patch?! 1106661625 M * Val arf :) 1106661628 M * Val no problemo 1106661652 M * Bertl preferable: kernel-source-2.4.27_2.4.27-8.diff.bz2 1106661657 M * Bertl ;) 1106661678 M * Val np² :) 1106662291 M * Val Bertl : http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/kernel-source-2.4.27_2.4.27-8.diff.gz 1106662299 M * Bertl tx 1106662427 Q * Seraph Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106662616 J * chrish01 ~chrish01@69.90.131.10 1106662626 M * chrish01 morning guys 1106662636 M * Bertl morning chrish01! 1106662663 M * chrish01 Bertl, ran into some issues last night with fib_frontend.c 1106662685 M * chrish01 maybe need some #ifdef 's in there for CONFIG_VSERVER_NGNET 1106662688 M * Bertl hmm, so you probably didn't keep close enough to my config then? 1106662693 M * chrish01 yea 1106662730 M * chrish01 i can get it to build, but now i need to go find what i need from fib. if i rememeber right, fib stuff is used in some routing features 1106662789 M * Bertl you must not enable multiple routing tables for now 1106662939 M * chrish01 gotcha 1106663195 M * chrish01 do you know what the CONFIG name is for the multiple routing tables 1106663252 M * Bertl # CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES is not set 1106663261 M * chrish01 ty 1106663297 M * chrish01 hmmm....thats not in my config 1106663317 M * Bertl # CONFIG_IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH is not set 1106663320 M * Bertl (maybe ;) 1106663324 M * chrish01 no, im in vi ;) 1106663348 M * chrish01 oh wait, i thought you typed the same thing again hahaa 1106663382 M * chrish01 nope 1106663403 M * Bertl well, please upload your config then, I'll look into it 1106663410 M * chrish01 ok 1106663476 J * Seraph kk@nyx.verfaction.de 1106663483 M * chrish01 Bertl, http://people.mosaix.net/chris/private/config-2.6.11-ngnet-8.12 1106663536 M * chrish01 check it out whenever you have time, no need to scramble right now 1106663567 M * Bertl hmm, the CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=y is broken (not my fault, it's broken in 2.6.11-rc2) 1106663587 M * chrish01 ahhh 1106663592 M * Bertl so disabling the CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK should suffice ... 1106663596 M * chrish01 looks like i should be on kernel mailing list 1106663617 M * Bertl not sure they already noticed ;) 1106663626 M * sladen 77 1106663654 M * Bertl hmm, some secret message from paul? hey paul! 1106663694 M * chrish01 Bertl, this is something that normally doesnt cause an issue with ngnet right? 1106663706 M * chrish01 cause its very important to have lol 1106663709 M * Bertl not that I know of ... 1106664118 M * Bertl Val: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/Debian/patch-2.4.27-8-vs1.2.10-rc1.diff 1106664136 M * Bertl (not even compile checked, but should be fine, please check) 1106664474 M * Val ok, i check it now 1106664478 M * Val many thanks :) 1106664486 M * Val does it contain quota patch ? 1106664507 M * Bertl nope not yet ... 1106664511 M * Val ok 1106664537 M * Bertl but I guess the old patch will apply w/o any issues ... 1106664584 M * Val yes, no issues 1106664591 M * Bertl q0.14.1, right? 1106664595 M * Val right 1106664600 M * Val the last stable one 1106664615 M * Bertl oaky, so that should work fine if the base kernel works fine 1106664639 J * meek ~lost_eps@64.127.148.103 1106664647 M * Bertl welcome meek! 1106664653 M * meek hi! 1106664705 M * meek I know it's experimental, but are many people running vserver under 2.6x kernel? 1106664719 M * Bertl I'd say so ... 1106664775 M * meek cool 1106664788 M * _are_ meek: dual Xeon and dual-opteron i run wit 2.6 1106664802 M * Mega\work yessssssssssssssssssssss 1106664805 M * Mega\work YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS 1106664816 M * Mega\work Bertl................THANKS! 1106664852 M * Bertl hmm, my pleasure! (hmm, but for what actually? ;) 1106664861 M * Mega\work dhcpd running in host! 1106664874 M * Bertl ah, k ;) 1106664874 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106664979 M * meek excuse my ignorance, but if compiling for 2.6x, would I use the patch-2.6.3-vs0.09.diff and the stable branch for linux-vserver,util-server and vproc ? 1106664980 Q * BWare Remote host closed the connection 1106665020 M * Bertl meek: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/RC-1.9.4/ and get util-vserver 0.30.196 (i.e. alpha) 1106665100 M * meek thanks! 1106665100 M * chrish01 Bertl, building went fine on ngnet8.12. ill test out when i get to work later 1106665114 M * Bertl ok, thanks .. 1106665273 J * BWare ~bware@212.26.196.41 1106665402 M * meek Bertl: is there no quota patches for 2.6x ? 1106665754 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106665874 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106666156 M * Bertl meek: nope, disk limits are intrinsic part of 1.9.x, but per vserver quota isn't implemented yet 1106666179 M * Bertl (and it seems that folks are not missing it that much) 1106666239 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-157-188-129.ppp.tiscali.fr 1106666261 M * Bertl wb sannes, DuckMaster! 1106666314 M * sannes hm, my connection is going up and down.. up and down .. up and down .. whee! 1106666341 M * Bertl usually you have to pay for that extra, you know? 1106667133 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106667387 Q * chrish01 Quit: Leaving 1106667433 J * ndim U2FsdGVkX1@helena.bawue.de 1106667442 M * Bertl wb ndim! 1106667554 J * mhepp ~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz 1106667554 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106669092 M * Val Bertl : 2.4.27-8-vs-1.2.10 compilation done (no problem), gonna test kernel now... 1106669279 M * Bertl excellent! 1106669578 J * chrish01 ~chrish01@69.90.131.25 1106669807 M * Val Bertl : ok, patch works fine 1106669826 M * Val now it's time to make the one with quota support ;-) 1106669953 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/Debian/patch-2.4.27-8-vs1.2.10-q0.14.1.diff 1106669957 M * Val arf :)) 1106669959 M * Val tx :) 1106670226 Q * chrish01 Quit: Leaving 1106670393 Q * meek Remote host closed the connection 1106670498 J * chrish01 ~chrish01@69.90.131.25 1106670659 Q * chrish01 Remote host closed the connection 1106670730 M * Val Bertl : got a reject with patch-2.4.27-8-vs1.2.10-q0.14.1.diff, see http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/ioctl.c.rej 1106670793 M * Val hum 1106670910 J * chrish01 ~chrish01@69.90.131.25 1106670921 M * Bertl Val: it's ontop of the previous ;) 1106670986 M * Val arg 1106671119 M * Val didn't see it, wait, re-testing patches 1106671282 M * Val well well well... it's true, it applies fine :) 1106671284 M * Val sorry 1106671559 M * Bertl np 1106672033 J * mbucc ~konversat@host-216-153-147-194.spr.choiceone.net 1106672065 M * Bertl welcome mbucc! 1106672071 M * mbucc hi Bertl 1106672113 M * mbucc Bertl, are there any docs on resource usage w/ vserver? 1106672125 M * mbucc PHP + Apache w/in each server 1106672128 M * mbucc vserver 1106672134 M * mbucc + mysql 1106672185 M * mbucc and is the 2.6 + 1.3.9 better w.r.t. to "unification" 1106672194 M * mbucc and therefor resource usage 1106672201 M * mbucc ? 1106672231 M * mbucc oops. 1106672235 M * mbucc not 1.3, 1.9 1106672272 M * Bertl mbucc: basically all programs use the same resources they would on a normal linux host 1106672308 M * Bertl if your vservers are unified, they will share binaries (and libraries), which will reduce the amount of buffered and cached data 1106672361 M * mbucc so i think the one stat i saw was that libc had 5% overhead 1106672380 M * mbucc so three vservers using libc = 115% of one server 1106672389 M * mbucc is that the right calculation? 1106672408 M * Bertl yes, something in that ball park ... 1106672432 M * mbucc has anyone computed similar stats for mysql + apache + php? 1106672451 M * mbucc seems like buffered and cached data overlap could be significant. 1106672452 M * Val Bertl : time to leave for me, 2.4.27-vs-1.2.10-q0.14.1 compilation in progress, i'll tell you tomorow if all works... 1106672467 M * Val Bertl : many thanks and bye ;-) 1106672469 M * Bertl mbucc: nope, but if you want to do serious evaluation/stats in this direction, I'd definitely welcome that 1106672476 M * Bertl Val: ok, cya! 1106672484 Q * Val Quit: cya all :) 1106672489 M * mbucc bertl: i would be willing to try. 1106672501 M * mbucc i'd have to learn how. 1106672520 M * mbucc "\/proc" 1106672523 M * Bertl well, first step is definitely to get 2.6.x-vs1.9.y running ... 1106672537 M * mbucc first step is to buy a server. ;) 1106672559 M * mbucc so, you think 2.6 + 1.9 is ok for production box? 1106672560 M * Bertl hmm, well, yes and no, probably any amchine will do for that purpose 1106672578 M * mbucc 'k. 1106672586 M * Bertl I'd go for 2.6/1.9.x although testing for 2.4/1.2 would be nice too 1106672597 M * mbucc post back when that is working. 1106672621 M * Bertl (1.9.4-rc3 is the latest) 1106672633 M * mbucc no major "unification" improvements from 1.2 to 1.9? 1106672652 M * Bertl no, the method is identical 1106672657 M * mbucc ah, 'k 1106672686 M * Bertl we might replace the unification by cow links at some point ... 1106672706 M * mbucc cow = ? 1106672711 M * Bertl copy on write 1106672776 M * mbucc i'll start with 2.4 i think, but try to script it should it should be easy to replicate. 1106672790 M * Bertl sounds good! 1106673172 J * sannes ~ace@217.8.136.224 1106673187 M * Bertl wb sannes! 1106673473 M * sannes heh 1106673625 Q * prae Quit: Client exiting 1106675482 Q * mhepp Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106675746 Q * Duckx Quit: Leaving 1106676133 J * prae ~prae@sherpadown.net 1106676201 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1106676381 Q * Mega\work Quit: Leaving 1106676595 M * sannes hm 1106676609 M * sannes so happened anything fun latelty? 1106676626 M * Bertl well, we had a lot of joins ;) 1106676655 M * sannes hehe 1106676664 M * sannes that must have been fun :) no leaves then? :) 1106676677 M * Bertl I do not count those ;) 1106676736 M * sannes ugh, my irc host is really unstable .. I always miss half of the discussions (yes, i know, they are on the web somewhere.. heh) 1106676885 M * Bertl do you need an url while you are here? 1106676930 M * Bertl sannes? sannes? ;) 1106677172 M * sannes heh 1106677191 M * sannes yeah :) that would be great.. I'll bookmark it in this non-volatile laptop installation :) 1106677226 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/ 1106677259 M * sannes thanks! :) 1106677337 Q * _are_ Remote host closed the connection 1106677598 J * xaero amit@220.224.32.77 1106677615 M * Bertl welcome xaero! new questions? 1106677623 M * xaero ya 1106677642 M * xaero how does vserver handle timer interrupts 1106677698 M * Bertl hum? well, like linux ... 1106677724 M * xaero same as host context or any specail method 1106677736 M * Bertl nothing special ... 1106677768 M * xaero i have read that xen is more near to mainframe architecture 1106677786 M * xaero what is it , and is vserver too the same 1106677802 M * Bertl define mainframe architecture! 1106677820 M * xaero no idea 1106677896 M * Bertl hmm, so what do you want me to 'compare' then? 1106677942 M * xaero ok i'll check up that 1106677972 M * xaero what happens when a vserver calls a blocking sys call 1106677991 M * xaero how do other vservers see it 1106678001 M * Bertl then the process will block, as every normal process in linux does 1106678059 M * xaero how do separate the shared ipc 1106678296 M * xaero i mean how do u secure different context processes from shared ipc 1106678329 M * Bertl the ipc (and shm stuff) is tagged ... this separates it ... 1106678337 M * Bertl have to leave now, will be back later ... 1106678342 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1106678460 M * sannes bye bye 1106678461 M * sannes :) 1106678478 A * sannes is still looking for a stable 2.6 kernel.. heh 1106678501 M * daniel_hozac good luck with that ;) 1106678553 M * sannes (actually 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 w/patches is stable for me.. ) 1106678590 M * sannes but it is just too evil to run that on a production server.. heh 1106678702 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106678807 M * sannes ah, yes.. I should get some work done on the bme patch again.. against 2.6.11-rc2 now is it? 1106678874 M * sannes just had a really busy week .. I was almost there with rc1 .. hm, just have to figure out where I stored it.. heh.. :) 1106679610 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1106679631 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106680109 J * shuri sjnesjd@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1106680503 Q * SiD3WiNDR Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106681133 Q * xaero Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106681332 J * SiD3WiNDR luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1106681336 Q * mbucc Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106681514 J * mbucc ~konversat@host-216-153-147-194.spr.choiceone.net 1106682883 J * xaero amit@220.224.15.140 1106682898 Q * xaero Quit: 1106684028 Q * shuri Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106684073 J * monrad ~monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk 1106684146 J * tanjix tanjix@pD9FAC382.dip.t-dialin.net 1106684150 M * tanjix hi together 1106684194 M * tanjix can i send all process-ids i get with "vps aux | grep " to vkill in one command line? thank you 1106684321 M * daniel_hozac vps aux | grep | awk '{ system("kill " $2); }' ? 1106684360 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: thanks 1106684541 M * mugwump ... | xargs vkill 1106684560 J * mbucc_ ~konversat@host-216-153-147-194.spr.choiceone.net 1106684599 M * daniel_hozac vps aux will have a lot of columns ;) 1106684620 Q * mbucc Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106684963 Q * serving Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106684983 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1106685311 J * nayco ~nayco@lns-th2-8-dij-82-64-121-43.adsl.proxad.net 1106685324 M * nayco 'llo ! 1106686791 J * yarihm ~yarihm@80-218-7-247.dclient.hispeed.ch 1106687376 Q * tanjix Quit: 1106689177 Q * we2by Quit: Leaving 1106690509 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106690514 M * we2by hi 1106691055 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1106691666 J * nish ~nish@220.224.8.234 1106691698 Q * nish Quit: 1106691776 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1106691808 J * serving ~serving@213.186.180.184 1106692150 M * Bertl_oO evening folks and good night ... too tired for now ... 1106692157 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1106692158 M * daniel_hozac good night. 1106692791 Q * mbucc_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1106693396 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1106693698 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1106693807 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106694167 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1106694595 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106694600 Q * we2by Remote host closed the connection 1106694693 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106694693 Q * we2by Quit: 1106695451 M * chrish01 Bertl_zZ, when you wake up ... vnet is causing a segfault 1106695763 M * nayco Poor Bertl_zZ ;) 1106696248 J * we2by ~jinxi@145.116.6.75 1106696269 Q * nayco Quit: Bonne nuit !