1102379834 Q * tchan Quit: Lost terminal 1102379840 M * brc bertl 1102382222 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1102382225 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1102389739 J * tchan ~tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net 1102391130 Q * matti Quit: 8-X 1102394986 J * _no_x ~vps@c150110.adsl.hansenet.de 1102395085 Q * no_x Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102395085 N * _no_x no_x 1102398034 N * Doener Doener|gone 1102401825 Q * Nik Quit: Hybernating my brain 1102405855 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving 1102407048 J * grecea ~grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1102409324 J * sebd ~konversat@lesdeveloppementsdurables.org 1102410040 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1102411789 J * rs rs@ice.aspic.com 1102411801 M * rs hi dudes 1102413092 J * redLED redled@84.194.215.101 1102415961 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1102416688 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@66.179.81.30 1102418516 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102418973 N * Bert_zZ Bertl 1102418984 M * Bertl morning folks! 1102419001 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102419167 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102419181 J * berni_ ~berni@obelix.ipv6.birkenwald.de 1102419191 M * Hollow hm, i wonder if i can bug someone for my disconnects.. 1102419207 M * Bertl I had a chat with weasel, he is in this channel now 1102419225 M * Bertl he said that most likely your network connectivity is bad 1102419242 M * Bertl (i.e. routing or adsl) 1102419245 Q * berni Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102419256 M * Hollow hm, but i have no probs with other irc servers, ssh sessions, etc.. 1102419267 M * Hollow they dure days without socket errors 1102419283 M * Hollow s/dure/take 1102419285 M * Hollow :P 1102419285 M * Bertl maybe you should contact him ... 1102419299 M * Hollow i'll do... 1102419309 M * Hollow btw: my machine is up again 1102419314 M * Loki|muh Hollow: same here, one disconnect every day :/ 1102419320 M * Bertl hey rs dude! 1102419325 M * Hollow one every day would be fine... 1102419327 M * Bertl hey Loki|muh! 1102419336 M * Loki|muh hi Bertl 1102419344 M * Hollow it just disconnects me if i don't say sth for just few minutes 1102419363 M * Loki|muh it disconnects me completely random :/ 1102419412 M * Hollow so, iptables works already let's see if i can create interfaces inside my vsevrer 1102419452 M * weasel Hollow: of course your irc client is broken too. It appears to cache dns responses, which is a bad thing. it also always picks the same node of a rotation 1102419480 M * weasel Hollow: so if you have a bad route to 1 of 5 rotation servers, it will stick to that. clever, isn't it? 1102419495 M * Hollow weasel: i had irc.oftc.net in my server settings, now i have a fixed ip Bertlgave me... and i have dnsmasq running on that host and using it for every connection.. 1102419495 M * Loki|muh Bertl: hows your ngn stuff going? I wonder how I can test the things because I don't see a ready or a featurelist or sth else like that 1102419522 M * weasel Hollow: you are supposed to use irc.oftc.net. using individual servers is asking for trouble. 1102419531 M * Bertl weasel, Hollow: please take it off channel .. 1102419543 M * weasel *shrug* 1102419553 M * Hollow i'll try irc.oftc.net again, and query you if it fails again 1102419587 Q * Hollow Quit: Und weg... 1102419602 M * Bertl Loki|muh: if you like to test the stuff ... then the first thing is to get the various tools compiled an patches applied 1102419640 M * Bertl just let me know ... feature list was posted to the ml ... 1102419650 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102419781 M * Bertl okay, back later ... 1102419785 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1102419850 M * Hollow Bertl: if create the interfaces per vnet they won't show up inside the vserver 1102420331 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102420520 M * weasel look at that, m-net vs. eurorings broken 1102420583 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102420640 M * rs re 1102420676 J * berni ~berni@2001:1b18:202::2 1102420736 Q * Hollow Quit: 1102420753 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102420814 Q * Hollow Quit: 1102420830 J * Hollow ~bene@home.xnull.de 1102420844 M * Loki|muh Hollow: no luck? 1102420915 M * brc bertl 1102420921 M * brc check your query 1102421122 Q * Hollow Quit: Und weg... 1102421573 J * Hollow ~bene@dido.xnull.de 1102421596 Q * redLED Quit: Leaving 1102421610 M * Hollow so, let's see if it works with my bouncer.. 1102422039 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1102422049 M * Bertl back now ... 1102422077 M * Bertl Hollow: was weasel able to help you somehow? 1102422299 M * Bertl Hollow: ad interfaces, what did you try yet? 1102422752 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1102422927 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1102422935 M * Bertl welcome sannes! 1102422961 J * grecea ~grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1102426376 Q * berni Quit: leaving 1102426992 M * Hollow Bertl: i found out that the interfaces only show up if i do chcontext --ctx 1253 ifconfig 1102427013 M * Hollow vserver gentoo enter -> ifconfig did not work 1102427036 M * Bertl with ngnet you have to do some things different 1102427056 M * Bertl did you get the iptables and the vnet tool compiled? 1102427063 M * Hollow yep 1102427080 M * Bertl okay, did you have a look at the vnet3 script? 1102427084 M * Hollow yep 1102427106 M * Bertl okay, so you porbably know now that you have to do the following: 1102427114 M * Bertl 1) create the context 1102427123 M * Bertl 2) create the network devices (including lo) 1102427134 M * Bertl 3) configure the network devices from inside the vserver 1102427148 M * Hollow ok, i'll try again, but i think i did this.. 1102427148 M * Bertl 4) configure routing from inside the vserver 1102427179 M * Bertl first remove all network config from the existing scripts 1102427193 M * Bertl (i.e. the alpha or stable config) 1102427203 M * Bertl this will just lead to confusion and failure later 1102427271 M * Hollow ok, i botted my vserver without interfaces 1102427300 M * Hollow did: vnet -x 1253 -n 11 -d lo && vnet -x 1253 -n 11 -d dummy0 -D en0 1102427307 M * Hollow -n 10 before 1102427318 M * Bertl hmm, dummy0? 1102427332 M * Hollow i'm using a dummy interface for testing 1102427337 M * Bertl that will not allow you to send packets to the network 1102427337 M * Hollow it is configured on the host 1102427363 M * Hollow but the interfaces should show up, no? 1102427378 M * Bertl hmm, yeah, it probably will ... 1102427386 M * Bertl ah, no 1102427389 M * Hollow but, sec, i'll try with eth0 1102427393 M * Bertl you are using the same vnet id 1102427398 M * Bertl which is not allowed 1102427409 M * Hollow they were 10 and 11 1102427413 M * Hollow just c&p'ed 1102427439 M * Bertl okay, then ifconfig should show the interfaces ... 1102427457 M * Bertl (hope you did the vnet stuff _after_ starting the context) 1102427462 M * Hollow yep... 1102427473 M * Hollow but they won't 1102427485 M * Bertl check with /proc/vnet 1102427486 J * Brucey cinacio@snape.aspic.com 1102427492 M * Bertl welcome Brucey! 1102427496 M * Brucey hey :) 1102427499 M * Hollow btw: /proc/vnet shows the devices even after i stopped the vserver 1102427525 M * Hollow stoned root # cat /proc/vnet 1102427525 M * Hollow #vnet #xid device (vnet, real) 1102427525 M * Hollow 10 1253 lo lo 1102427525 M * Hollow 11 1253 en0 dummy0 1102427529 M * Bertl yep, you should not stop the vserver ;) 1102427549 M * Bertl currently removal of the interfaces is not implemented 1102427558 M * Hollow ic 1102427586 M * Bertl but that is easy to do ... just not done yet ... 1102427872 M * Hollow stoned root # cat /proc/vnet 1102427872 M * Hollow stoned root # vserver gentoo start 1102427872 M * Hollow * Caching service dependencies... [ ok ] 1102427872 M * Hollow * Starting syslog-ng... [ ok ] 1102427873 M * Hollow * Loading key mappings... [ ok ] 1102427873 M * Hollow * Initializing random number generator... [ ok ] 1102427875 M * Hollow * Starting local... [ ok ] 1102427875 M * Hollow stoned root # vserver gentoo enter 1102427877 M * Hollow gentoo / # ifconfig 1102427879 M * Hollow gentoo / # logout 1102427879 M * Hollow stoned root # setattr -R --~hide /proc/ 1102427881 M * Hollow stoned root # vnet -x 1253 -n 10 -d lo 1102427881 M * Hollow stoned root # vnet -x 1253 -n 11 -d eth0 -D en0 1102427883 M * Hollow stoned root # chcontext --ctx 1253 bash -c " 1102427883 M * Hollow > ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up 1102427885 M * Hollow > ifconfig en0 192.168.0.2 up 1102427885 M * Hollow > " 1102427887 M * Hollow SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied 1102427887 M * Hollow SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied 1102427889 M * Hollow SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied 1102427889 M * Hollow SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied 1102427891 M * Hollow SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied 1102427893 M * Hollow SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied 1102427948 M * Bertl hmm, probably the --secure denies this ... 1102427959 M * Bertl let's add a few caps to that config like 1102427966 M * Bertl CAP_NET_RAW and CAP_NET_ADMIN 1102428069 M * Hollow ok 1102428089 M * Hollow reconfigure the vnet devices? 1102428125 M * Bertl well, best is probably to change the caps and use a new context 1102428145 M * Bertl so for example 1254 1102428211 M * Hollow they don't show up... 1102428255 M * Bertl could you try the vnet3 script alone? 1102428260 M * Hollow sure 1102428273 M * Hollow i think i did.. it's working.. 1102428279 M * Hollow but let me see 1102428300 M * Bertl okay, so it's something with the vserver itself ... maybe some interface hiding is on or so? 1102428335 M * Hollow stoned root # sh vnet_setup.sh 1102428335 M * Hollow New security context is 100 1102428335 M * Hollow New security context is 200 1102428335 M * Hollow stoned root # chcontext --ctx 100 ifconfig 1102428335 M * Hollow en0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:DC:C2:28:A8 1102428337 M * Hollow inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 1102428339 M * Hollow seems to work 1102428408 M * Hollow i don't know of interface hiding... maybe.. 1102428876 J * Pazzo ~thomas@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it 1102428880 M * Pazzo Hola! 1102429345 M * Pazzo Is Bertl somewhere around here? 1102429351 M * Brucey hi Pazzo 1102429358 M * Pazzo Hi Brucey! 1102429369 M * Brucey he was a few minutes ago... I think he's still around 1102429494 M * Pazzo hmmm... 1102429501 M * Pazzo thnx brucey! 1102429604 M * Bertl yep, I am ... 1102429611 M * Bertl what's up? 1102429624 M * Hollow ha, funny... now it disconnects me from my bouncer.. 1102429693 M * Pazzo hi bertl! 1102429735 M * Pazzo I'm still "a little" busy all days - but I've read your ml post about NGN! 1102429784 M * Bertl yeah, and? you want to test? 1102429794 M * Pazzo is there a changelog/irclog about what is new there since our last testing session? 1102429817 M * Bertl irclog see irc.13thfloor.at:/LOG 1102429850 M * Bertl changelog .. no, it changes to fast atm ... 1102429870 M * Bertl but basically we have virtual network devices, isolated routing and such stuff ... 1102429915 M * Pazzo are you still using netfilter marks? 1102429954 M * Pazzo and if so do they still require netfilter rules tagging incoming packets? 1102429974 M * Pazzo or is everything totally new now? 1102430290 M * Bertl yes netfilter marks are still used 1102430305 M * Bertl but they have a separate filter table called 'vnet' now 1102430568 J * Johan ~johan@fia204-8-100.dsl.mxposure.nl 1102430569 M * Johan Hi all 1102430576 M * Bertl greetings Johan! 1102430711 M * Johan I am going to try the devel release on 2.6.9, however I wonderd if I need a seperate patch for quota support or not. I see only quota-patches for 2.4 or am I looking wrong ? 1102430823 M * Bertl nope, you are looking right ... 1102430838 M * rs re 1102430843 M * Bertl Johan: there is no shared-quota support for 2.6 yet 1102430848 M * Bertl wb rs! 1102430854 M * rs thx Bertl 1102430880 M * Bertl Johan: Disk Limits on a shared partition OTOH are included in 1.9.x 1102430899 M * Johan Bertl: Ah I see. tnx 1102430911 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1102431726 M * Bertl Johan: do you use per context quota on a shared partition with 2.4? 1102432518 M * Johan Berl: I used linux-vserver only once for a very short time because I was interested. Because it worked sow flawlessly and fast and nicely, I decided to use it on a production machine which I am configuring right now. I have no Idea if I should go for the stable release with 2.4 or the devel with 2.6, but it seems the devel for 2.6 has a lot of nice options, so I thought lets give it a try. 1102432542 M * Johan So the short answer to your question, I haven't used quota with vserver at all :) 1102432582 M * Bertl ah, okay, so you probably won't miss it either ... 1102432667 M * Johan Well I only readed the docs about quota on linux-vserver.org fastly, but I think I will need it. 1102432753 M * albeiro hm, i just got compile errors with 2.6.10-rc3-vs1.9.3.10 and NGNET 2.6.10-rc3-vs1.9.3.10-ng7 1102432757 M * albeiro releating to NGNET 1102432784 M * Bertl did you start with the kernel config provided there? 1102432811 M * Loki|muh Bertl: whats so special about the kernel config? 1102432825 M * albeiro not at all, replaced it with my own config 1102432841 M * Bertl well, a lot of stuff isn't modularized yet, and a bunch of config options must not be selected 1102432861 M * Bertl so my advice is to use that config and add your drivers/hardware stuff 1102432873 M * Bertl and where possible, avoid modules 1102432905 M * albeiro it is monolitic kernel, just to avoid m3ess 1102432910 M * Bertl (this is all cleanup stuff and such which will be done, once we know that it works as it is supposed to work) 1102432911 M * albeiro mess 1102432924 M * albeiro ok, let's see what is in your file... 1102432956 M * Bertl Johan: hmm, for what exactly? (the quota) 1102432962 J * _sebd ~konversat@lesdeveloppementsdurables.org 1102432974 M * Bertl welcome _sebd! 1102432979 Q * sebd Read error: Connection reset by peer 1102432997 N * _sebd sebd 1102432999 M * sebd hi 1102433018 M * albeiro where do you see config file ? 1102433058 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/kernel-ng5.config 1102433068 M * albeiro k 1102433093 M * Bertl for example multiple routing tables are evil for now! 1102433118 M * albeiro i hope that they will be working fast ;] 1102433141 M * Bertl they are not hard to add ... 1102433441 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1102433561 M * Pazzo (back) 1102433575 M * Pazzo Bertl: sorry, I've had to leave... 1102433657 M * Johan Bertl: Well actually it might be possible I understood the quota-docs wrong because I read them very fast, I have to give them some more attention when I have the time. However, I need usr/group quota within each vserver. Or is this arranged by the per-disk-limit ? 1102433710 M * Bertl no, you read it correctly, that requires context quota, if you want to put your vservers on a shared partition 1102433812 M * Johan Ok. Yeah I ran them on 1 partition with drbd and heartbeat. Vserver makes it so easy to setup a nice failover 1102433835 M * Bertl so 2.4 is the only choice for you then ... 1102433863 M * Johan Bertl: Yeah I was afraid for that. However first I wanna play with the developement version :) 1102433958 M * albeiro what has happend to ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support ? i can not find my ide chipsets there... 1102433990 M * Pazzo bertl: what do I need to get NGNET up and running? kernel, patch-2.6.10-rc3-vs1.9.3.9-ng6.diff... any patch for userspace utils? or any new tools? 1102434075 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.10-rc3-vs1.9.3.10.diff 1102434082 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/diff-2.6.10-rc3-vs1.9.3.10-ng7.diff 1102434095 M * Bertl iptables + http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/iptables-1.2.9-vnet.diff 1102434105 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/vnet-0.02.tar.bz2 1102434128 M * Bertl plus the alpha util-vserver and the 2.6.10-rc3 kernel 1102434157 M * albeiro funny, one big section of kernel config has vanished 1102434180 M * Bertl well, as I said, the config is a minimal one ... 1102434193 M * Bertl you probably want to enable some other stuff too ... 1102434230 M * albeiro i will not boot without additional drivers, but i can not see them 1102434245 M * Pazzo thnx bertl! 1102434267 M * Bertl albeiro: check the .config with an editor ... 1102434281 M * Pazzo F#$K - iptables patch too? 1102434298 M * Pazzo is this for iptables inside or outside? 1102434300 M * Bertl yep you need that one to get support for the new table and rules 1102434306 M * Bertl host 1102434310 M * albeiro :/ 1102434312 M * Pazzo :( 1102434343 M * Bertl it's not too hard to patch a single tool on the host 1102434386 M * albeiro sure it's not 1102434401 M * albeiro but anyway, and of plug'n'play ;] 1102434432 M * Bertl well, you can't have it both ... how do you suppose to create the tagging without 'reusing' the mark stuff then? 1102434437 M * Pazzo for sure - but it is another package different from sarge, another package to mantain by myself, to take care of patches, security updates and so on... 1102434446 M * Bertl (which is an issue once iptables is available inside too) 1102434539 M * Pazzo bertl: does vnet allow me to specify a custom MAC address for my virtual interfaces (-> ml post today) 1102434543 M * Pazzo ? 1102434567 M * Bertl well, in theory yes, but that is something you basically do not want 1102434591 M * albeiro ok, i have "crafted" config now, lets see it it compiles... 1102434665 M * Bertl Pazzo: the thing is, to use more than one MAC you have to put the interface in promisc mode ... which will result in a big drop of performance ... 1102434943 M * albeiro PF_EXT_SLIB <- i can not find it in my iptables Makefile 1102434975 M * albeiro ok, i can ;] 1102434994 M * albeiro but... 1102434995 M * albeiro kernel/vserver/helper.c:124: error: redefinition of `vs_context_state' 1102434995 M * albeiro kernel/vserver/helper.c:93: error: `vs_context_state' previously defined here 1102435015 M * Bertl sec 1102435087 M * Bertl that file ends at line 122 1102435115 M * albeiro 153 lines here 1102435131 M * Bertl maybe you aptched it twice? 1102435158 M * albeiro looks so, this two definitions are the same ;p 1102435189 M * Bertl I would start with a clean 2.6.10-rc3 1102435203 M * albeiro that is what i am going to do 1102435218 M * albeiro to avoid futher problems 1102435294 M * albeiro violet ~ # /usr/local/sbin/iptables -L -n -v | wc -l 1102435294 M * albeiro 515 1102435296 M * albeiro :) 1102435302 M * albeiro new version of iptables ready 1102435322 M * Bertl okay, try iptables -t vnet -L 1102435333 M * Bertl (ah, no kernel yet, I guess) 1102435348 M * albeiro not yet 1102435375 M * albeiro but i am not loosing time anyway, so doing as much as i cna while it compiles 1102435383 M * albeiro s/cna/can/ 1102435569 M * albeiro ok, where can i found alpha utils ? 1102435613 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver 1102435623 M * Bertl http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/alpha/ 1102435910 M * albeiro get the most fresh as i can see ? 1102435910 M * albeiro util-vserver-0.30.196.tar.bz2 1102435926 M * Bertl yep 1102435933 M * Loki|muh yes, but does not compile on amd64 ;) 1102435964 M * Bertl hmm, IIRC it compiled and we also fixed the dietlibc bug, right? 1102436008 M * Loki|muh no, not 196 1102436014 M * Loki|muh 195 works, but 196 not 1102436019 M * Loki|muh ensc knows about this 1102436030 M * Bertl aha, what is the 'new' issue there? 1102436109 M * albeiro btw - what is dietlibc for ? 1102436109 M * albeiro why not normal glibc ? 1102436154 M * Bertl glibc is bloated and has issues with the resolver -- ensc 1102436176 M * albeiro and dietlibc has bugs by design 1102436182 M * albeiro uclibc ? 1102436202 M * Bertl probably an option too, nobody I know managed to compile it though ... 1102436245 M * albeiro should be more easy than with dietlibc is, in theory... 1102436265 M * Loki|muh Bertl: http://nopaste.phpfi.com/40093 this is the message 1102436335 M * Bertl hmm, so dietlibc on x86_64 does not support nice? 1102436466 M * Loki|muh hmmm, dunno 1102436674 M * albeiro hm 1102436674 M * albeiro http://rafb.net/paste/results/pPDK5A59.html 1102436677 M * albeiro error which i got 1102436707 M * albeiro with util-vserver-0.30.196 1102436842 M * Bertl probably you got a bunch of warnings and such before that 1102436875 M * albeiro let me clean and compile once again, will grab them if any 1102437093 M * rs iptables is now working with ngn ? 1102437111 M * Bertl iptables yes, but not inside yet 1102437122 M * albeiro ont any warning 1102437143 M * Bertl okay, what distro, what arch? 1102437155 M * rs Bertl: for inside it still needs the vshelper twick? 1102437170 M * Bertl well, maybe, maybe we virtualize that too ... 1102437197 M * rs you mean, no needs for vshelper ? 1102437238 M * Bertl maybe ... I don't know yet ... 1102437249 M * Pazzo (back again) Bertl: is promisc mode really a big performance drop? and why??? (on a switched lan) 1102437277 M * albeiro gentoo linux, x86 1102437277 M * albeiro dietlibc-0.27 1102437277 M * albeiro gcc 3.3.3 1102437288 M * Bertl because the mac recognition can not be done by the hardware ... 1102437305 M * albeiro just switched to gcc-3.4.3 anyway 1102437316 M * Bertl any output from the config? 1102437385 M * albeiro which config 1102437396 M * Bertl when you do ./configure 1102437453 M * Pazzo thnx bertl, that's a good reason. but is this really a performance drop you can feel? 1102437473 M * Bertl not with ping ;) 1102437503 M * Bertl but please go ahead, do some tests ... 1102437578 M * albeiro on zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl/~albeiro/config_log 1102437846 M * Bertl hmm, is /usr/src/linux maybe a link to some actual kernel headers? 1102437850 M * albeiro mayby dietlibc is squashed so much it even does not suuport syscalls ;p (no matter how it would work than ;p) 1102437870 M * albeiro file /usr/src/linux 1102437871 M * albeiro /usr/src/linux: symbolic link to `/usr/src/vserver/linux-2.6.9' 1102437885 M * Bertl thought so ... you should not do that ... 1102437899 M * albeiro this are vserver sources 1102437907 M * Bertl /usr/src/linux should be provided by your libc 1102438009 M * albeiro how so ? 1102438024 M * albeiro not to running kernel ? 1102438030 M * Bertl nope, never 1102438049 M * albeiro 1. why 2. do why everybody does so ? 1102438054 M * Bertl oops, sorry ... 1102438059 M * albeiro s/do/so/ 1102438070 M * Bertl forget it, I meant /usr/include/linux 1102438082 M * albeiro yeah, that is done by proper way 1102438090 M * albeiro provided by my glibc 1102438101 M * Bertl yeah, so forget the crap I said ... 1102438111 A * albeiro forgets 1102438153 M * Pazzo Bertl: sorry, no testing today :( 1102438157 M * Pazzo ehm... 1102438176 M * Bertl albeiro: okay, did you manage to compile any alpha util-vserver with gentoo yet? 1102438188 M * albeiro sure, many of them i supose 1102438221 M * Bertl okay, then take any other you can find ... 1102438233 M * albeiro and test one yb one ? eh... 1102438239 M * albeiro s/yb/by/ 1102438255 M * Bertl no, get any which compiled, it doesn't matter for the ngnet stuff 1102438260 M * albeiro oh - kernel is compiled 1102438285 M * albeiro i have no clue which one it was... let's try 1102438293 M * Pazzo one more little question: dual xeon with 4gb ram (yes I know, opteron would have been the better choice) - what memory split setting should I use? 1.0GB/3.0GB? 1102438396 M * Bertl 4GB means you have to use highmem 1102438418 M * Bertl I'd suggest using a 2/2 split for that ... maybe 1/3 1102438438 M * Bertl you can not avoid highmem on x86 with 4GB ... 1102438459 M * Bertl (well, not with those kind of splits, the 4/4 split can, but has other drawbacks) 1102438469 M * no_x highmem = shadowregister ?? 1102438516 M * Pazzo I hate this whole split thing :( 1102438528 M * Bertl nope, highmem = mapped in memory outside of address space 1102438554 M * Eyck what is shadowregister? something like registerfile on sparc? 1102438558 M * Bertl for example, the usual (2.6 vanilla) memory split is 3/1 1102438569 M * Pazzo bertl: can I run into trouble if I use a 2GB/2GB kernel on a 512MB or 1GB host? 1102438576 M * Bertl means 3GB address space for userspace and 1GB for kernel 1102438589 M * Bertl so everything above 1GB is highmem for the kernel 1102438603 M * Bertl Pazzo: no 1102438609 M * Pazzo thnx! 1102438719 M * albeiro util-vserver-0.29.214 tells me the same... 1102438800 M * Pazzo so, I really have to leave now. thnx bertl, I hope I will be back tomorrow for testing ngn! 1102438802 M * Pazzo cu all! 1102438807 M * albeiro cu Pazzo 1102438821 P * Pazzo 1102438907 J * Shuri Shuri@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net 1102438977 M * albeiro util-vserver-0.28.199 1102438979 M * albeiro the same 1102439001 M * albeiro so there is probably no way to compile alpha utils for me :( 1102439019 M * albeiro you think it is dietlibc bug or alpha utils ? 1102439068 M * Bertl well, the alpha utils can be compiled on many distros 1102439079 M * Bertl never had one _not_ defining syscall 1102439094 M * albeiro so you got one :) 1102439101 M * Bertl but I'd say, maybe gentoo just decided to move the definition somewhere else 1102439112 M * Bertl so first look into 'man syscall' 1102439132 M * Bertl that should tell you the include files required 1102439139 M * albeiro #include 1102439140 M * albeiro #include 1102439182 M * Bertl where was the url of the error message pelase? 1102439203 M * albeiro http://rafb.net/paste/results/pPDK5A59.html 1102439223 M * Bertl tx 1102439276 M * Bertl okay, it's the linker complaining ... 1102439288 M * Bertl so probably your dietlibc is to blame ... 1102439297 M * Bertl try to compile it with glibc ... 1102439322 M * albeiro what should i change ? 1102439336 M * Bertl just remove the dietlibc 1102439340 M * albeiro ok 1102439673 M * albeiro succes, as i suposed 1102439680 M * albeiro dietlibc is just one big piece of crap 1102439696 M * Bertl well, we know the gentoo version is ;) 1102439725 A * albeiro hates dietlibc 1102439758 M * albeiro you know, we are doing much in gentoo for security, looking at dietlibc causes pain in my head 1102439762 A * albeiro reboot 1102440162 M * albeiro i could supose that 1102440173 M * albeiro crappy 2.6 can not boot 1102440181 Q * ravenedge Remote host closed the connection 1102440407 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1102440418 M * albeiro it's development kernel version, so not suprising 1102440442 M * Bertl hmm, well 2.6 kernels boot fine on mandrake ;) 1102440494 M * albeiro but are big piece of crap ;] 1102440510 A * albeiro is using 2.4 wolk 1102440530 M * Bertl ah, okay ... well, then get your favorite editor and start backporting ;) 1102440558 M * albeiro ;p 1102440573 M * albeiro i will rather reconfigure this "kernel" 1102440768 M * albeiro i got something like ... errr... "picutre" just after booting 1102440776 M * albeiro with vertical lines 1102440780 M * albeiro and few colours 1102440789 M * Bertl sounds interesting ... 1102440891 M * albeiro ok, just disabled _everything_ what is not strictly necesary to boot 1102441239 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102442252 J * ensc ~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de 1102444728 Q * Brucey Quit: "Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again" 1102444985 M * Bertl okay, folks, back later ... 1102445006 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1102446267 J * DuckMaster ~Duck@dyn-83-155-12-111.ppp.tiscali.fr 1102446697 Q * DuckKing Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102448107 Q * rs Quit: home 1102448736 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1102449861 J * ravenedge click@dsl-84-161.aal.tiscali.no 1102449904 J * Sirius_Black ~sirius@p548540C1.dip.t-dialin.net 1102449905 M * Sirius_Black ^^ 1102449906 M * Sirius_Black hi 1102449927 M * Sirius_Black what cap must a vserver have to change inside the hostname ? 1102450138 M * Shuri no cap need to change vserver hostname.. 1102450156 M * Shuri cat Tux /etc/hostname 1102450169 M * Sirius_Black when i want to change the hostname inside i'll get 'you must be root to change ...' 1102450170 M * Sirius_Black *g* 1102450189 M * Shuri cat Tux /etc/hostname ? 1102450201 M * Sirius_Black mh 1102450203 M * Sirius_Black ^^ 1102450207 M * Shuri or in the conf? 1102450700 M * mugwump in linux-vserver 2.6, you do that by setting the "utsname" ccap 1102450728 M * mugwump in /etc/vservers/foo/ccapabilities 1102450757 M * mugwump as mentioned on the flower page (linked from http://www.linux-vserver.net/alpha+util-vserver) 1102452313 Q * BWare Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10 1102452345 J * flock ~restless@l192-117-111-12.broadband.actcom.net.il 1102452683 J * tb ~tb@rt-pha-1.karneval.cz 1102452691 M * tb Hi 1102452711 M * tb I were here some day ago.. 1102452730 M * tb may you had same troble as me.. 1102452734 M * tb trouble.. 1102452763 M * tb I have vservers...I use squid..on one of them.. 1102452801 M * tb squid works well only one problem is that local pages cant work.. 1102452811 M * tb bind woks well.. 1102452822 M * tb I dont know why??? 1102452894 Q * Shuri Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102453535 Q * Sirius_Black Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de ) 1102454333 N * Doener|gone Doener 1102454471 Q * tb Quit: Ukončuji 1102454647 Q * daniel_hozac xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1102454647 Q * infowolfe xenon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1102454734 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@h212n1fls33o829.telia.com 1102455703 J * sannes ~ace@home.skarby.no 1102455930 Q * jsambrook Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102455946 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1102457737 J * rs ~rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net 1102457741 M * rs re 1102460167 Q * dsanta Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1102461491 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1102461496 M * Bertl evening folks! 1102461509 M * albeiro evening Bertl :) 1102461521 M * Doener hey Bertl! 1102461533 A * albeiro has stopped his experiments with NGNET for some time 1102461557 M * Bertl what a pity! now that it is getting interesting ... 1102461558 M * albeiro i _will_ return to it in few days, i fell it ;p 1102461595 M * Bertl after all, I got a few ideas what has to be done next 1102461606 M * albeiro share them :) 1102461635 M * Bertl well, first, I'll finish the vshelper on context create/destroy stuff (about 15 minutes + testing) 1102461661 M * Bertl then I'll add the code for removing/destroying vnet interfaces (probably 30 min) 1102461695 M * Bertl and after that I add some magic to allow the vnet creation inside of namespaces 1102461796 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@66.179.81.30 1102461832 M * albeiro nice 1102461870 M * Bertl welcome infowolfe! 1102462356 M * Bertl okay, so let's get some work done! 1102462920 Q * no_x iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1102462920 Q * anonymous-coward iridium.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1102462927 J * dsanta ~santa@c68.190.156.105.roc.mn.charter.com 1102462973 J * no_x ~vps@c150110.adsl.hansenet.de 1102462973 J * anonymous-coward ~nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au 1102463000 M * Bertl everybody still alive? 1102463092 A * Doener feels like being alive 1102463154 M * Bertl good! 1102463286 M * Bertl Doener: do you have a few minutes? 1102463290 M * Doener yep 1102463313 M * Bertl you got the linux-vserver code (1.9.3.10) at hand= 1102463315 M * Bertl ? 1102463354 Q * jsambrook Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ 1102463384 M * Doener now i got it 1102463404 M * Bertl okay, we have 2 level allocation/deallocation for the vx_info 1102463421 M * Bertl first the refcounting, then the hash 1102463448 M * Doener yep, remember something like that... 1102463462 M * Bertl well, it's actually no hash atm ... but ... 1102463479 M * Bertl it was planned as one *G* 1102463521 M * Bertl now I wonder how much performance hit that actually causes ... 1102463542 M * Bertl and, more than that, why we are still using rcu lists, without rcu that is ... 1102463661 M * Doener hm, cscope is broken again... 1102463714 M * Bertl again or still? 1102463731 M * Bertl ah, btw, got a reply to the bugreport, shall I forward? 1102463760 M * Doener not the "#define bla {" issue... it justs decides to terminate after the first search done from vim... 1102463790 M * Doener and then i get some broken pipe error :( 1102463797 M * Doener please do so 1102463805 M * Bertl hmm, interesting, never hat that ... 1102463827 M * Doener looks like some gentoo issue.. 15.5 worked, 15.5-r1 breaks 'sometimes' 1102463847 M * albeiro yet another gentoo user, nice :) 1102463864 M * Doener ok, downgraded... 1102463882 M * Bertl bmx or isp4p ? 1102463907 M * Doener doesn't matter... procmail configuration is not finished yet ;)