1101945629 M * nosy Bertl: yes that is the only way i can access the vserver. But if i try to bind ssh on the vserver to *.* it also complains
1101945682 M * Bertl well, it should not 'complain' if you do not use the 'same' ip for the vserver
1101945946 M * nosy Bertl: why not?
1101945966 M * nosy my main servers interface is also included in inaddr_any
1101946003 M * Bertl yep, but the 'vserver' patch matches only those ips specified for the vserver (if INADDR_ANY is given(
1101946053 M * nosy ah cool
1101946312 M * nosy k
1101946323 M * nosy Bertl: thank you
1101946333 Q * nosy Quit: [BX] With a BitchX here and a BitchX there, here a BitchX there a BitchX everywhere a BitchX
1101946467 Q * Fibbs Quit: Verlassend
1101947395 J * ccooke ccooke@spc1-walt1-4-0-cust221.asfd.broadband.ntl.com
1101947561 M * Bertl welcome ccooke!
1101947565 M * ccooke hi
1101948223 M * albeiro hi you all
1101948264 M * matti [01:43:54] Irssi uptime: 35d 15h 43m 27s
1101948266 M * matti Huh.
1101948282 M * Bertl hey matti, albeiro!
1101948287 M * matti Hi Bertl :]
1101948352 M * matti  albeiro How your new hardware working?
1101948461 M * albeiro very well so far, i am really amazed
1101948497 M * albeiro Bertl: it will be no way to check what was bad with mu sudden restarts, i have just changed motherboard, cpuc and memory :)
1101948525 M * Bertl no problem with that ;)
1101948536 M * albeiro ;p
1101948620 M * matti albeiro: But it!
1101948629 M * albeiro ?
1101948631 M * matti albeiro: Make all of mcp stress tests :D
1101948638 M * matti s/But/Burn/.
1101948650 M * albeiro sure, but you will have to wait few days ;p
1101948668 M * albeiro i had left it working for about 12 hours and it was _far_ from finish
1101948678 M * albeiro far from even half
1101948703 M * matti ;]
1101948742 M * albeiro matti: btw - this few friends i've been telling you about came here for a "few" minutes
1101948759 M * albeiro matti: they bringed beer with them, etc ;p
1101948801 M * albeiro so i had loosed precision when trying putting it all toogether ;p
1101948810 M * matti LOOOOL
1101948819 M * matti Broke something yet?
1101948820 M * matti :]
1101948850 M * albeiro not yet, and even more - i managed to set it up working from first shoot
1101948858 M * matti :D
1101948864 M * matti With my BIOS settings?
1101948883 M * albeiro you know, after so many years it does not require thinking, you are just doing it :)
1101948888 M * albeiro yeah, with your seeting
1101948889 M * albeiro s
1101948909 M * matti OK.
1101948920 M * albeiro oh - and thx for screws and the like
1101948963 M * matti What about strange behavior when it count memory size?
1101948973 M * albeiro not any problem ye5
1101948978 M * albeiro *yet
1101948979 M * matti Huh.
1101948979 M * matti :]
1101948992 M * matti OK, it seems to work well.
1101948994 M * albeiro (uh, my "precision" lacks ;p)
1101949010 M * matti albeiro: You're drunk are you? :]
1101949021 M * albeiro not at all !
1101949037 M * albeiro freinds were here for about two hours
1101949045 M * albeiro or mayby three ;p
1101949060 M * matti Right... Not drunk at all :P
1101949065 M * matti Hahaha.
1101949074 M * albeiro they were here when you were phonning me ;p
1101949081 M * matti :P
1101949104 M * albeiro just for advice about seting up wireless network
1101949117 M * albeiro access points in particular
1101949198 M * albeiro they have some expensive planets afaik
1101949209 M * albeiro more than 2k pln for each
1101949217 M * matti HUh, expensive...
1101949243 M * albeiro yeah, very
1101949248 M * matti albeiro: BTW, I really need new machine :/
1101949265 M * albeiro but you know, after trying dlink, you know... ;p
1101949278 M * albeiro (uh, i am repeting myself, not drunk at all ;p)
1101949293 M * matti LOL
1101949305 M * albeiro dlinks sucks
1101949325 M * matti Yep.
1101949343 M * albeiro           Title: Moskau
1101949343 M * albeiro          Artist: Rammstein
1101949343 M * albeiro           Album: Reise Reise
1101949346 M * albeiro it rocks :)
1101949353 M * matti Did I tell you, how to make in simple way DoS on D-Link WAPs?
1101949379 M * albeiro you had even presented it on live ;p
1101949389 M * matti Oh :D
1101949395 M * matti Hahah, right :]
1101949413 M * albeiro nevermind ;]
1101949414 M * albeiro NDA ;p
1101949489 M * matti Whoa...
1101949506 A * matti read mcp's sysctl config :]
1101949524 M * albeiro about half of it can be usefull ;p
1101949560 M * albeiro (standard input):net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts = 0
1101949561 M * albeiro (standard input):net.ipv4.icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses = 0
1101949565 M * albeiro (standard input):net.ipv4.icmp_restrict = 0
1101949574 M * albeiro well... if he really needs it ;]
1101949946 M * albeiro ok, on to rest of configuring...
1101949949 M * albeiro *reboot*
1101950672 J * monrad monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk
1101953755 Q * no_maam Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101954144 M * Bertl hmm, anybody interested in ngn here?
1101954720 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD955E5BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1101954764 M * Bertl welcome laberwaber2333!
1101954830 P * laberwaber2333 
1101954962 J * rollingthunder43 laberwabe@pD955E5BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1101954987 M * Bertl ahh, a better name ?!
1101955157 P * rollingthunder43 
1101955223 M * monrad Bertl, up late?
1101955250 M * Bertl or early ... as you prefer ...
1101955274 M * monrad :)
1101955308 M * monrad i am programming some java but i am about 4 hours late now but it will not work
1101955338 M * Bertl hmm .. IIRC, that's quite normal for java ;)
1101955361 M * monrad i thought so
1101956070 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD955E5BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1101956081 M * Bertl wb laberwaber2333!
1101956311 J * rollingthunder43 laberwabe@pD955E5BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1101956318 P * laberwaber2333 
1101956493 M * Bertl hmm, guess that is fun, but then ... not so much fun 
1101956516 M * Bertl rollingthunder43: contact me (herbert@13thfloor.at) if you need something ...
1101956542 F * ChanServ +o Bertl
1101956607 F * Bertl +b *!*@pD955E5BD.dip.t-dialin.net
1101956616 P * rollingthunder43 
1101956626 F * Bertl -o Bertl
1101957035 M * monrad well thats one more down now i need to draw 3 eggs and make a bargraph
1101957109 M * Bertl 3 eggs? it's 3 weeks till christmas and you are designing for easter?
1101957111 M * Bertl ;)
1101957117 M * monrad :)
1101957127 M * monrad its what the book is saying
1101957167 J * no_maam erik@datenzone.de
1101957175 M * Bertl wb no_maam!
1101957828 M * monrad if one wants to play with the new style 0.30.196 is the way to go right?
1101957848 M * Bertl yep, definitely ...
1101957871 M * monrad know if anyone have made debian packages of it?
1101957897 M * monrad i need to get an server out of the door and gentoo is fun to play with but i know it works with debian
1101957906 M * Bertl IIRC val is packaging up-to-date util-vserver for debian
1101957918 M * monrad and it is a bit slow so bootstrapping gentoo takes 17 hours on it :)
1101957926 M * monrad ok
1101957960 M * Bertl http://vallar.linuxfr.org/debian/
1101957974 M * Bertl hmm, guess he didn't make it to userspace yet :/
1101958165 M * monrad i guess i can compile myself
1101958275 M * Bertl okay ... I guess I'm off to bed now ...
1101958300 M * Bertl have a nice whatever, everyone! cya monrad!
1101958314 M * mugwump Andy: bow down and submit to `apt-cache search'
1101958320 M * mugwump blast, wrong window, sorry
1101958334 M * mugwump bye bertl !
1101958337 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1101958467 A * monrad bows down
1101962102 Q * anonymous-coward Quit: adios
1101962807 J * anonymous-coward nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au
1101962979 J * _no_x vps@c135094.adsl.hansenet.de
1101963079 Q * no_x Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101963088 N * _no_x no_x
1101968399 J * ntrs_ ntrs@SP2-24.207.228.55.charter-stl.com
1101968411 J * Loki|muh_ loki@satanix.de
1101968413 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection
1101968793 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101970103 Q * Snow-Man Remote host closed the connection
1101970115 J * Snow-Man sfrost@snowman.net
1101970614 Q * avi- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101971296 Q * berni Quit: leaving
1101971304 J * berni berni@2001:1b18:202::2
1101973744 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD9E1FAB5.dip.t-dialin.net
1101973913 P * laberwaber2333 
1101974149 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD9E1FAB5.dip.t-dialin.net
1101974261 P * laberwaber2333 
1101974660 Q * tchan Remote host closed the connection
1101977343 Q * Hollow Quit: Und weg...
1101977419 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1101977486 Q * Hollow Quit: 
1101977502 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1101977911 M * Hollow msg nickserv help set hide
1101977915 M * Hollow darr
1101978259 M * monrad close but no cigar
1101978339 J * Duckx duckx@195.75.27.158
1101978458 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101978602 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1101979033 M * monrad Hollow, darr isnt that kinda pirat like :)
1101979114 J * rs rs@ice.aspic.com
1101979119 M * rs hi dudes
1101979159 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101979239 M * monrad hi
1101980006 J * Brucey cinacio@snape.aspic.com
1101980009 M * Brucey hi
1101980323 M * Val hi Brucey :)
1101983568 Q * Duckx Remote host closed the connection
1101985037 M * chand hey Brucey, Val
1101985114 M * Val hey chand :)
1101985127 M * chand how's it going ?
1101985133 M * Val well
1101985173 M * Val nice idea your spam killer app ;-)
1101985223 M * Val isn't it ?
1101985223 M * Val :)
1101988533 Q * grecea Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101988656 M * eyck hmm, 
1101988662 M * eyck freshmeat ratings are useless
1101988679 M * Brucey Val: well... it's the mail's spam killer app, we discovered its existence on slashdot :)
1101989057 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net
1101989077 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1101989558 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101990853 M * albeiro hm, nice
1101990855 M * albeiro http://oss.croup.de/vserver/guide/
1101990871 M * albeiro i wonder who had written it
1101990882 M * daniel_hozac Hollow?
1101991595 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101992146 M * Val Brucey : arf :))
1101992512 J * Duckx duckx@195.75.27.158
1101993834 Q * sebd Remote host closed the connection
1101993834 Q * grecea Read error: Connection reset by peer
1101993842 J * sebd konversat@81.56.247.131
1101993851 Q * Loki|muh_ Remote host closed the connection
1101993873 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1101994033 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net
1101994571 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection
1101994634 J * grecea_ grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net
1101994648 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net
1101994663 P * grecea 
1101996048 Q * chand Quit: Hey!  Where'd my controlling terminal go?
1101996431 J * tchan tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net
1101996715 Q * grecea_ Quit: Leaving
1101997666 J * Alissa ali2@ppp-101-71.98-62.inwind.it
1101997695 M * Alissa hi all
1101997846 M * eyck hi Alissa
1101997962 M * Alissa eyck you know at all like creating a vserver without to use debian-newvserver.sh?  this script unloads from Internet but I have little band... not there am a way to use the cd of installation?
1101997964 M * Alissa =)
1101998195 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1101998239 J * chand chand@cancun.aspic.com
1101998240 M * eyck Alissa: you can point debian-newvserver at your CD repository, then it shouldn't touch interent...
1101998268 M * eyck Alissa: also, there was this newvserver command that clones existing image as vserver
1101998393 M * Alissa I have areally modified debian-newvserver of point on CD
1101998405 M * Alissa debootstrap download from a internet the info.....
1101998406 M * Alissa =°°°
1101998502 M * Brucey you can tell debootstrap to use your CD as well
1101998526 M * Brucey using a file: URL IIRC
1101998549 M * Alissa and as I make that?
1101998567 M * Alissa and where it is found?
1101998674 M * sladen Alissa: debian-newvserver uses a cache, so once it downloads the packages once, if keeps them for next time
1101998684 M * sladen Alissa: you can pre-fill that cache with the files off your CD
1101998788 M * Alissa sladen if I have understood well:  you say me to copy the packages on the harddisk?
1101998884 M * sladen Alissa: run the script.  Cancel it after a package
1101998893 M * sladen Alissa: you'll now see the cache directory
1101998903 M * sladen Alissa: copy the deb's off the CD onto there
1101998922 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1101998924 M * sladen Alissa: you can also get debootstrap to use a file:// repositary
1101998937 M * Alissa thank's
1101998939 M * Alissa =)
1101998965 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD9E1FAB5.dip.t-dialin.net
1101999085 P * laberwaber2333 
1101999395 J * sannes ace@home.skarby.no
1101999639 M * Alissa sladen is truly slow (use the mobile telephone one in order to connect to me ^^") not is an other way?  to modify the config of debootstrap?
1101999654 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1101999659 M * Bertl morning folks!
1101999665 M * Brucey hi Bertl :)
1101999723 M * no_x hi Bertl !
1101999731 M * Bertl hey Brucey! no_x!
1101999774 M * Alissa hi Bertl =)
1101999825 M * Bertl hey Alissa!
1101999883 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer
1101999894 A * Bertl .oO( hmm ... Alissandro? )
1101999912 M * Alissa LOL
1101999915 Q * monrad Remote host closed the connection
1101999928 M * Alissa Bertl I'm Alessia
1101999934 M * Alissa not Alissandro
1101999936 M * Alissa =D
1101999985 M * Bertl that's fine with me ... ;)
1102000046 M * Alissa aal not says to indicate to me like modifying debootstrap so that it heads endured for the CD and not at Internet?
1102000049 M * Alissa *all
1102000083 M * Bertl hmm ... please rephrase (parse error)
1102000109 M * Bertl you want to debootstrap from CD?
1102000155 M * Alissa Bertl sorry, I'm Italian my english it's very very basically
1102000156 M * Alissa ^^"
1102000174 M * Alissa Bertl yes, debootstrap from cdropm
1102000175 M * Alissa =)
1102000178 M * Alissa *cdrom
1102000186 M * Bertl np, I'm no native english speaker either ...
1102000203 M * Zoiah Alissa: are you located in the US by any chance at the moment?
1102000280 M * Alissa Zoiah not, is in Italy =)
1102000292 M * Bertl Alissa: well, I have no idea how to 'specify' debootstrap repositories on a cdrom ... but debian folks around should know ...
1102000329 M * Alissa uhmmmm
1102000351 A * Alissa it prepares the gun...
1102000353 M * Alissa ^^"
1102000401 M * Brucey Alissa: I think changing the MIRROR var in debian-newvserver to a file:// pointing to where you mounted the CD should do
1102000416 M * Brucey to a file://... URL of course
1102000466 J * Alissa` ali2@ppp-101-71.98-62.inwind.it
1102000485 M * Bertl Val: you around?
1102000572 Q * Alissa` Read error: No route to host
1102000574 Q * Alissa Read error: No route to host
1102000578 J * Alissa` ali2@ppp-101-71.98-62.inwind.it
1102000591 N * Alissa` Alissa
1102000610 M * Brucey Alissa: I think changing the MIRROR var in debian-newvserver to a file://... URL pointing to where you mounted the CD should do
1102000741 M * Bertl anybody bold enough around to test ngnet stuff?
1102000840 M * Alissa # Local or nearest location of a debian mirror (must include the `/debian')
1102000842 M * Alissa # MIRROR="http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian"
1102000842 M * Alissa MIRROR=""
1102000847 M * Alissa Brucey this?
1102000871 M * Brucey yes
1102000919 M * Alissa MIRROR="file://mnt/cdrom"
1102000924 M * Alissa is correctly?
1102000978 M * Brucey I don't remember the structure of a debian CDROM
1102000991 M * Brucey perhaps you have to specify a subdirectory
1102001096 Q * Psy0rz Quit: leaving
1102001143 M * Alissa subdirectory?
1102001245 M * Brucey yeah... like file://mnt/cdrom/debian
1102001257 M * Brucey (it's just an example, I really don't rmemeber)
1102001263 M * Brucey remember
1102001298 M * Alissa trinity:/mnt/cdrom/dists# ls
1102001299 M * Alissa TRANS.TBL  frozen  potato  stable  unstable  woody
1102001299 M * Alissa trinity:/mnt/cdrom/dists#
1102001301 M * Alissa dists
1102001308 M * Alissa =)
1102001392 M * Brucey perhaps you don't even need to put it... try with just MIRROR="file://mnt/cdrom"
1102001398 M * Brucey and you'll see if it works 
1102001712 M * Alissa I: Checking whiptail...
1102001713 M * Alissa I: Checking zlib1g...
1102001713 M * Alissa E: Couldn't download adduser
1102001713 M * Alissa debian-newvserver.sh: error: debootstrap failure. Cannot continue.
1102001713 M * Alissa trinity:/usr/local/lib/util-vserver#
1102001722 M * Alissa fuck debootstrap!
1102001725 M * Alissa =°(
1102001769 M * Doener hmm, shouldn't that be file:///mnt/cdrom ?
1102001781 M * Alissa file:///mnt/cdrom/dists
1102001816 M * Bertl is this a DVD? or do debians distros really fit on a single CD?
1102001830 M * Alissa single cds
1102001883 M * daniel_hozac i thought a whole Debian required about 7 CDs.
1102001906 M * Brucey the base distribution fits on the first CD I think
1102001916 M * Brucey but you won't have all packages there of course
1102001932 M * Alissa I have areally the first cd mounted Brucey
1102001933 M * Alissa =°°°
1102001965 M * Bertl I don't think it will allow you to swap cdroms (with debootstrap) or?
1102001979 M * Brucey BTW, you're roght Doener, there should be a third '/' there
1102001992 M * Bertl hey Doener btw!
1102001999 M * Doener Alissa: the 'dists' is wrong and with two slashes it won't work
1102002011 M * Doener so please try with file:///mnt/cdrom
1102002023 M * Doener hi Bertl, Brucey, #vserver !
1102002024 M * Alissa Doener not funcionally
1102002024 M * Alissa =\
1102002035 M * Brucey Bertl: nope, but adduser is on the first CD, as well as all "Essential" packages
1102002036 M * Alissa I: Checking util-linux...
1102002037 M * Alissa I: Checking wget...
1102002037 M * Alissa I: Checking whiptail...
1102002037 M * Alissa I: Checking zlib1g...
1102002037 M * Alissa E: Couldn't download adduser
1102002038 M * Alissa debian-newvserver.sh: error: debootstrap failure. Cannot continue.
1102002038 M * Alissa trinity:/usr/local/lib/util-vserver#
1102002065 M * Brucey could adduser not be on the first CD?
1102002099 M * Doener try: debootstrap --download-only woody /path/to/vserver file:///mnt/cdrom
1102002406 M * Alissa thank's Doener
1102002410 M * Alissa it's work!
1102002413 M * Alissa =)))
1102002416 M * Alissa =***************
1102002425 M * Doener you're welcome
1102002447 M * Alissa uhmmmm
1102002466 M * Doener once that has completed the newvserver script should work, since it should use the created cache
1102002469 M * Alissa I have spoken too much soon...
1102002475 M * Alissa -.-°
1102002480 M * Alissa E: Couldn't download adduser
1102002482 M * Alissa debian-newvserver.sh: error: debootstrap failure. Cannot continue.
1102002482 M * Alissa trinity:/usr/local/lib/util-vserver#
1102002483 M * Alissa grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
1102002560 M * Doener do you have a source entry in your sources.list pointing to the cdrom?
1102002574 M * Alissa yes
1102002586 M * Alissa woody, sarge end Sid
1102002589 M * Alissa *and
1102002636 M * Doener then try: debootstrap --download-only woody /path/to/vserver 
1102002772 M * Alissa Doener I use the mobile telephone for connecting m on Internet
1102002778 M * Alissa 9.6k
1102002782 M * Alissa it's a suicide
1102002784 M * Alissa ^^"
1102003129 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1102003180 M * Bertl wb ensc!
1102003885 M * Doener Alissa: if you have the cdrom as primary source in sources.list it should use that for debootstrapping
1102004088 T * matti http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.29, devel 1.3.9, 1.9.3 
1102004090 M * matti Ups.
1102004094 T * matti http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.29, devel 1.3.9, 1.9.3 | http://oss.croup.de/vserver/guide/
1102004097 M * matti :-)
1102004167 T * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 1.29, devel 1.3.9, 1.9.3 
1102004168 J * Alissa` ali2@ppp-226-98.98-62.inwind.it
1102004189 M * matti Hah.
1102004190 M * Bertl matti: otherwise we need longer topic strings (with 32 chars for each distro ;)
1102004208 M * matti I see.
1102004213 M * matti ;-)
1102004227 M * Bertl is it linked on the wiki?
1102004241 M * matti I don't know.
1102004288 Q * Alissa` Read error: No route to host
1102004292 J * Alissa` ali2@ppp-226-98.98-62.inwind.it
1102004318 M * Bertl matti: yep, under Documentation/Howtos
1102004333 M * matti ;-)
1102004479 M * Alissa` Doener 
1102004480 M * Alissa` trinity:/vservers/cypher.home.mirr0r.org/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
1102004480 M * Alissa` deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20020718)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
1102004494 M * Alissa` the first cd of debian woody is an source list
1102004495 M * Alissa` ^^"
1102004536 M * Doener hm, unstable = sid, is there also an entry for stable a.k.a. woody?
1102004544 Q * Alissa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102004594 M * Alissa` uhmmmm
1102004598 M * Alissa` gh
1102004837 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection
1102004896 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1102005107 M * Brucey Bertl: what's your recommended method to create a basic mandrake-based vserver?
1102005178 M * Brucey (we will probably provide Mandrake before SuSE, as SuSE will only make their latest version available on their FTP servers in january)
1102005256 Q * virtuoso Remote host closed the connection
1102005285 J * virtuoso s0t0na@mutator.sot.com
1102005296 M * Bertl Brucey: good question, last time I 'created' a template, I tricked the script on the CD to install to some disk partition ...
1102005385 M * Bertl I would guess the easiest method to create a template is to make a minimum install and dump/restore that, then remove the unneeded stuff and add required packages ...
1102005443 M * Brucey we need a more flexible way, as we currently do for debian and redhat
1102005477 M * Brucey but I'll find out, that will make an interresting practice for SuSE which will probably be harder for me :)
1102005534 M * Bertl the scripts on the mandrake cd probably need just minor tweaking to do that ...
1102005550 M * Bertl (you are interested in the second level installer only)
1102005576 M * Brucey I'll have a look at them, thanks
1102005584 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1102005681 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1102005690 M * Bertl welcome Hollow!
1102005986 M * albeiro http://home.xnull.de/work/gentoo/vserver/guide/
1102005990 M * albeiro receive timeout
1102006052 M * albeiro Hollow: is it true you are writing it ?
1102006162 N * Val Val_away
1102006165 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102006536 J * lilo_ lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1102006536 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1102006874 N * Alissa` Ali\eat
1102006889 J * sannes ace@217.8.136.224
1102007172 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1102007327 M * Doener later folks...
1102007332 N * Doener Doener|Gone
1102007900 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102008891 Q * Duckx Quit: Leaving
1102008950 Q * Ali\eat Read error: No route to host
1102009524 J * lilo lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1102009524 Q * lilo_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1102009582 M * Brucey see you all later :)
1102009607 Q * Brucey Quit: "War doesn't determine who's right, war determines who's left."
1102009839 Q * rs Quit: leaving
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1102010257 J * lilo lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1102010939 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1102010945 M * Hollow wtf...
1102010948 M * Hollow oftc has probs, no?
1102010965 M * Hollow Bertl: got my msg?
1102011031 M * Bertl which one?
1102011058 M * Hollow Bertl: i'd like to test this new networking stuff... are there any patches yet?
1102011061 M * Hollow this one
1102011096 M * Bertl ah! excellent!
1102011121 M * Bertl no, I missed that one ... but indeed there is a patch and all the stuff you require ...
1102011139 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/
1102011147 M * Hollow ok, i'll have a look, thx
1102011153 M * Bertl the kernel requires the following patches:
1102011176 M * Bertl 2.6.10-rc2, then vs.1.9.3.7.1 ontop of that, and then
1102011182 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/patch-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.7.1-ng5.1.diff
1102011197 M * Hollow ok
1102011204 M * Bertl you best start with the kernel-ng5.config and add your drivers ...
1102011207 M * Hollow btw: what are the delta-* patches?
1102011227 M * Bertl delta-* are patches between versions ... ignore them for now
1102011251 M * Hollow ah, ok
1102011286 M * Hollow any userspace utils/patches i'd need?
1102011317 M * Bertl yes, you need to patch iptables
1102011324 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/NGNET/iptables-1.2.9-vnet.patch.bz2
1102011330 M * Hollow mhm, thought so..
1102011335 M * Bertl and you need to compile the vnet-0.02 tools
1102011368 M * Bertl I'll upload a script to get a context configured in a jiffie
1102011386 M * Hollow ok, i'll try this later on my notebook, just don't want to crash my running vservers on my desk :)
1102011441 M * Bertl yes, do not try it on anything near production ...
1102011458 M * Bertl (you will not even be able to start a vserver properly I guess)
1102011468 M * Hollow btw: i'm planning to run vserver hosting in early 2005 (march, april or so) you think 2.6 patches/utils are quite stable then?
1102011484 M * Hollow oh.. i don't have prod vserver, but i'm playing around to get best hosting condig etc..
1102011520 M * TheSeer Hollow: i have 2.6 running on a production server
1102011525 M * TheSeer Hollow: works like a charm
1102011556 M * Hollow works like a charm here two, but it gets nearly no load, so is there much load on your boxes?
1102011592 M * Hollow s/two/too/ :)
1102011592 Q * ensc Read error: Connection reset by peer
1102011593 M * Bertl you can get high load feedback from lycos I guess ... ;)
1102011599 M * Hollow heh
1102011605 M * Hollow is lycos using 2.6?
1102011613 M * Bertl yes
1102011619 M * Hollow oh.. n1
1102011629 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1102011688 M * Hollow i've just ordered another dedi to setup my initial vserver configuration... so i'll probably test ngnet stuff on them too
1102011700 M * Bertl sounds great!
1102011707 M * Hollow features sound great too :)
1102011740 M * Bertl yes, and it's still getting better ...
1102011755 M * Bertl (there is a bunch of new features waiting to be unleashed)
1102011791 M * Hollow i'm working with SNAT on my desk, works fine, but imo it is not the best solution
1102011802 M * Hollow so i'm looking forward to the ngnet stuff ;)
1102011913 M * Hollow Bertl: btw: my friend who'd d the logo suggestion has a new fiancee for some weeks now, so unfortunately he's too busy with her atm :(
1102011972 M * Bertl np with that ...
1102011987 M * Hollow yeah, not that important it hink :P
1102011998 M * Hollow just want you to know
1102012025 M * Hollow tim for dinner... bbl
1102012069 M * Bertl cya
1102012510 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102012803 M * TheSeer Bertl: btw.. i found the reason for the strange behaviour of i reported lasttime ;)
1102012808 M * TheSeer the vserver had been hacked *g*
1102012832 M * Loki|muh ouch ;)
1102012832 M * TheSeer obviously a weak root pwd and not disabled root-login for ssh
1102012843 M * TheSeer i already killed the admin *g*
1102012863 M * TheSeer actually i don't understand why ssh-root-login is enabled by default anyway
1102012875 M * TheSeer that's the worst default for a secure app one can imagine
1102013682 J * nosy nosy@pD9E72E0A.dip.t-dialin.net
1102013688 M * nosy hello
1102013735 M * nosy how can i make my vserver be able to ping?
1102013782 M * nosy i read that you implemented a new cap besides cap_net_raw for this
1102013795 M * TheSeer 2.4 or 2.6?
1102013796 M * nosy but i cannot find the name of the cap
1102013799 M * nosy 2.6
1102013806 M * TheSeer erm..
1102013809 M * TheSeer wait a sec..
1102013851 M * TheSeer i don't have any special caps to for pinging
1102013861 M * daniel_hozac it's a flag.
1102013869 M * nosy oh
1102013909 M * nosy 21:00] <Doener`> the ping stuff was mostly intended for Bertl... as we now have a context cap that allows to ping without net_raw, this may be of (at least a little) interest ;-)
1102013929 M * nosy ;) was from 22.6. i found it via google 
1102013958 M * nosy daniel_hozac: which flag should i use?
1102014050 M * daniel_hozac sorry, context cap. VXC_RAW_ICMP?
1102014154 M * TheSeer i don't have that on my 2.6 setup
1102014161 M * nosy ui, will try
1102014238 M * nosy hm, not
1102014249 M * nosy also not CAP_RAW_ICMP
1102014401 M * TheSeer what'S the error you get?
1102014443 M * nosy Unknown capability 'CAP_RAW_ICMP'
1102014466 M * brc Bertl, you there ?
1102014473 M * nosy inside i get a "ping must be run as root" if i do not use CAP_NET_RAW
1102014550 M * TheSeer okay...
1102014562 M * TheSeer if i 'vserver enter hostname' 
1102014564 M * TheSeer and run ping
1102014568 M * TheSeer it works like charm
1102014575 M * TheSeer e.g. pings to whatever ip i try
1102014577 M * nosy you have 2.4 kernel?
1102014580 M * TheSeer no, 2.6
1102014590 M * brc my 2.6 kernel just gave lot of errors
1102014593 M * brc guess it is about to crash
1102014594 M * nosy hm, which patch version?
1102014596 M * Bertl back again .. I love thos power outages ...
1102014605 M * nosy hey Bertl
1102014656 M * brc hey bertl, i think my machine is about to crash
1102014659 M * brc lot of kernel errors
1102014659 M * Bertl TheSeer: ah, I.c. (ad rooted vserver)
1102014666 M * brc could you check the log ?
1102014676 M * Bertl yep sure, where can I look at it?
1102014686 M * Bertl hey nosy!
1102014761 M * brc it is in the bottom
1102014817 M * Bertl ah, the good ol' page allocation failure ... (order 0 here)
1102014829 M * Bertl is that 2.6.9 I guess?
1102014844 M * brc yes!
1102014856 M * Bertl more than 1GB memory with highmem?
1102014865 M * brc 512mb
1102014871 M * Bertl highmem enabled?
1102014882 M * brc think so :(
1102014885 M * brc highmem causing the problem ?
1102014898 M * Bertl no, actually it's the kernel mm which causes problems
1102014906 M * Bertl there where a lot of fixes in 2.6.10-rc*
1102014927 M * brc memory management ?
1102014932 M * Bertl yep
1102014934 M * brc did that problem exist on 2.4 ?
1102014947 M * Bertl in a way .. but different ...
1102014953 M * brc HEHE
1102014961 M * brc how com ethe servers get big uptime? They are probrably not being heavily used
1102014994 M * Bertl the vm arch is very different between 2.4 and 2.6
1102015021 M * Bertl and the issues you see, just mean that the precious low or dma memory got exhausted ...
1102015064 M * Bertl in your case, the netpoll api (netconsole?) just can't allocate memory for buffers ...
1102015112 M * Bertl (probably somebody is running some kind of DDoS on your machine ... (or extensive port probe)
1102015118 M * brc hm i don have netconsole on this kernel
1102015128 M * brc there are about 4-5 p2p's running
1102015151 M * Bertl e100_poll <-- part of netpoll api AFAIK
1102015153 M * brc they are allways creating several connectiong
1102015177 M * brc i though that e100 had something to do with the e100 ether module
1102015201 M * Bertl yes, it has, the netpoll api is implemented by the nic drivers
1102015218 M * brc does those meessages mean that the server will crash?
1102015223 M * brc cause the last time it was 15 days up and then crashed
1102015236 M * brc and now i got 13 days.. so i guess it will crash in 2 days hehehe
1102015240 M * Bertl well, no it just means that there isn't enough memory to do the networking properly
1102015268 M * brc ok good
1102015284 M * Bertl but with several p2p vservers you are wondering that others do not see those issues?
1102015300 M * brc hmm what you mean?
1102015325 M * Bertl I guess your network traffic and network stack usage is much higher than for the usual vserver user ... right?
1102015341 M * brc sure
1102015342 M * brc :)
1102015352 M * brc what should i do ?
1102015359 M * Bertl and you are currently experiencing the limits of the 2.6.9 network stack
1102015389 M * brc limiting the number of connections would help ?
1102015395 M * Bertl switching to 2.6.10-rc2, disabling netpoll and highmem will probably give you much higher uptimes (with better performance) 
1102015430 M * Bertl do you use 'unusual' MTU sizes? (larger than 1500)?
1102015527 M * brc No
1102015537 M * brc took note about everything, i will just wait for it to crash
1102015542 M * brc and then i will put the 2.6.10 kernel
1102015551 M * brc more than 2 months uptime would be good :)
1102015568 M * brc I have some servers with 2.4(not vservers), which are up for more than 1 year
1102015568 M * Bertl yeah, if it stays up a few days .. you might even have a 2.6.10-rc3 or in a week maybe a final ...
1102015570 M * brc and they never crash
1102015572 M * brc 2.6 really sux
1102015585 M * brc hehehe
1102015606 M * Bertl well, it still has some issues, but it also has some nice features ...
1102015626 M * Bertl (of course, if you do not need them, don't bother with 2.6)
1102015692 M * brc if the vserver patch for 2.4 had all the 2.6 features i would use 2.4
1102015872 M * brc btw, i still owe you those tests, i've been sick for a week.. gonna do them tomorrow :)
1102015903 M * Bertl well, if you get around ... no need to {hu,wo}rry
1102015954 M * brc ok :)
1102015973 M * brc heard about what happened with pattrick (slackware) ?
1102015999 M * Bertl hmm, no?
1102016010 M * brc he is really sick
1102016022 M * brc if you are interested, check this:http://www.slackware.org/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386
1102016061 M * brc he is really bad, the GUS-BR group is now doing the patches
1102016069 M * brc but i wonder what will help with slackware
1102016229 M * nosy is it possible that most of you guys are german?
1102016267 M * Bertl no way!
1102016308 M * Bertl nosy: why do you think so?
1102016317 M * nosy Bertl: so the possibility sinks that you will come to Berlin around Silvester?
1102016329 M * nosy Bertl because of the names
1102016349 M * Bertl I'd say the possibility is almost zero ...
1102016382 M * nosy Bertl: you will miss a nice computer congress
1102016447 M * Bertl yeah? who is congregating?
1102016460 M * nosy Bertl: ccc
1102016491 M * Bertl ah, that be chaotic anyway ;)
1102016524 M * nosy Bertl: AND they will improve their technical lectures
1102016534 M * nosy yes :)
1102016859 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102017011 Q * nosy Quit: [BX] PARTYTIME! 5 seconds to the millenium! 4...3...2...1...EOF From client
1102017139 J * ndim U2FsdGVkX1@helena.bawue.de
1102017204 M * Bertl wb ndim!
1102017335 Q * sebd Read error: Connection reset by peer
1102017379 J * sebd konversat@81.56.247.131
1102017390 M * Bertl wb sebd!
1102019392 J * buddah buddah@static-141-158-133-173.scr.east.verizon.net
1102019392 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer
1102020084 M * Bertl welcome buddah!
1102021152 M * buddah hello
1102021656 M * Bertl do you need anything? or just looking ...
1102021670 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102021728 M * buddah just looking
1102021742 M * Bertl okay, enjoy your visit ;)
1102021786 M * buddah ok, thanks.  vserver is a project I'm working on.  just wanted to see what people say about it
1102021830 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/
1102023141 M * Bertl okay, folks, back later ...
1102023147 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1102023468 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1102023850 J * DuckKing Duck@dyn-83-155-86-59.ppp.tiscali.fr
1102024272 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102025345 J * rs rs@imhotep.rhapsodyk.net
1102025349 M * rs re
1102026084 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de
1102026378 J * sannes ace@home.skarby.no
1102027070 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102027652 Q * anonymous-coward Quit: adios
1102030046 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1102030050 M * Bertl evening folks!
1102030068 M * Bertl hey rs! around again?
1102030275 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1102030453 N * Doener|Gone Doener
1102030459 M * Doener evening!
1102030464 M * Bertl hey Doener!
1102030504 M * Doener hm, booted wrong kernel...
1102030505 J * anonymous-coward nwalsh@shaggy.internode.com.au
1102030808 M * Bertl wb anonymous-coward!
1102030825 M * anonymous-coward morning/evening bertl
1102030841 J * laberwaber2333 laberwabe@pD9E1FAB5.dip.t-dialin.net
1102030935 M * Bertl laberwaber2333: again?
1102031097 P * laberwaber2333 
1102031842 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de