1101688398 J * duckx Duck@dyn-83-154-91-124.ppp.tiscali.fr 1101688419 M * brc duck 1101689951 J * csko csko@213-163-23-165.vnet.hu 1101689954 P * csko 1101690255 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1101690269 M * Bertl greetings folks! 1101690294 M * matti Hi Bertl. 1101690308 M * Bertl hey matti, everything fine? 1101690403 M * matti Yep, thanks. 1101691865 M * albeiro ;p 1101703705 J * _no_x vps@c135157.adsl.hansenet.de 1101703817 Q * no_x Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101703826 N * _no_x no_x 1101709591 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1101709652 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1101709854 M * Bertl okay, night folks! 1101709859 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1101714106 M * eyck night? 1101714120 M * eyck Bertl went to australia? 1101717374 J * BWare bware@212.26.196.41 1101718433 J * DuckMaster duckx@195.75.27.158 1101718438 Q * DuckMaster Quit: 1101718461 J * DuckMaster duckx@195.75.27.158 1101718899 M * DuckMaster Morning 1101719653 J * rs rs@ice.aspic.com 1101719661 M * rs hi folks 1101719751 M * eyck morning 1101720381 J * Val val@gj403.loria.fr 1101722365 P * ccooke 1101722505 J * jsambrook jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1101723404 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1101723823 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1101724506 P * jsambrook 1101725323 J * ntrs_ ntrs@SP2-24.207.228.55.charter-stl.com 1101725641 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101728590 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1101728669 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1101733433 J * |uck luck@kerberos.b.astral.ro 1101733444 M * |uck hello! 1101733466 M * |uck i've got a vserver question, anyone around? 1101733478 M * brc yes 1101733591 M * |uck how can i get rid of /tmp mounted as tmpfs in a vserver? 1101733749 M * maharaja is umount not working? 1101733821 M * |uck no 1101733826 M * |uck and even if it was 1101733962 Q * anonymous-coward Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101734076 M * |uck i don't want the vserver starting with it mounted 1101734180 M * |uck oh, nvm, i've got it :) 1101734184 M * eyck Vnets provide virtual private lan segments to xen virtual 1101734185 M * eyck machines. From the point of view of a domain everything looks normal - 1101734185 M * eyck but in dom0 its traffic is wrapped inside a multipoint tunnel so it 1101734186 M * eyck cannot get at the real network - only its virtual private lan. 1101734195 M * eyck isn't this nice? 1101734217 M * eyck |uck: how have you mounted it from inside? 1101734245 M * |uck eyck: no, it was in /etc/vservers/vsname/fstab 1101734304 M * |uck and I removed it from there 1101734390 M * eyck oh, ok. 1101734485 M * |uck bye, see ya later 1101734487 Q * |uck Quit: 1101734510 J * infowolfe infowolfe@infowolfe.vps.xhcl.net 1101734520 M * infowolfe has everybody seen the sco pic? 1101734600 M * sladen infowolfe: I can't answer for other poeple. I have seen the sco piccy. For those who haven't, see http://www.sco.com/ 1101734618 M * infowolfe hacked by realloc() 1101734621 M * infowolfe WAY cool 1101734632 M * infowolfe snapshotting that 1101734671 M * sladen google images for 'sco' and number 4 is an image I drew 1101734814 M * Hollow i've a prob with my vserver iface configuration... see http://home.xnull.de/vserver-ip.png how to get my vservers internet access via eth0 and the external gw? 1101735034 M * sladen s/number 4/number 3/ 1101735297 M * infowolfe sladen: impressive 1101735303 M * infowolfe Hollow: let me look for ya 1101735334 M * infowolfe Hollow: won't work. 1101735364 M * Hollow h 1101735365 M * Hollow m 1101735372 M * infowolfe for them to talk to the outside world, you have to do some fun stuff with SNAT 1101735391 M * infowolfe i attempted it once... failed spectacularly 1101735410 M * Hollow i could do the vserver on eth0 too, but the external ip is the only i have so i can't use 82.135.x.x fpr my vservers, 1101735426 M * daniel_hozac use masquerading? 1101735435 M * Hollow does it work with masquerading? 1101735443 M * Hollow i tried some masquerading but failed 1101735480 M * brc you need to use snat 1101735485 M * Hollow and... tcpdump shows packets comming from my vservers on eth1:xxx comming from eth0 1101735496 M * brc i've done that once on my home-box, which has a ppp concetion 1101735513 M * brc do this 1101735532 M * Hollow i'll try, thx 1101735545 M * brc iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.X -j SNAT --to 82.135.28.84 1101735558 M * brc tell me if it works 1101735715 M * Hollow brc: yeah, works fine, thx again 1101735746 M * brc :) 1101735772 M * Hollow wtf.. :D 2 days i was trying and this one-line command did it.. damn.. 1101735778 M * brc hehehe 1101735788 M * brc if you had come here befoer ....... 1101735789 M * Hollow i used dnat i think 1101735820 M * Hollow heh, i first try to do myself, if it really really does not work, i ask :) 1101735845 M * brc but 2 days is too much i usually try just 1 hour :) 1101735864 M * Hollow not full 2days of course... just tried it first two days ago :) 1101736020 M * brc ah ok hehe 1101736148 M * infowolfe sladen: btw, i've got a copy of sco's site at http://xhcl.net/sco-hacked/ 1101736271 Q * UFOczek Quit: leaving 1101738263 M * Hollow brc: the only problem with snat seems that every packet coming from a vserver now comes from the host (at least the ip header shows th host ip) 1101738370 M * infowolfe Hollow: that's the point of SNAT 1101738399 M * infowolfe ie S(ource)N(etwork)A(ddress)T(ranslation) 1101738455 M * Hollow yeah, it's clear for hosts in the internet seeing the ip of the host, but if i contact vserver 1 from vserver 2, vserver 1 says packet coms from host 1101738456 J * id_ test@relax-media.softwarezentrum.de 1101738545 M * id_ aloha #vserver 1101738678 M * Zoiah 'lo id__ 1101738889 Q * Val Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101739412 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101739872 M * Hollow brc: fyi: the above prob was solved with -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -d ! 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -j SNAT --to-source 82.135.28.84 1101739943 Q * sladen Remote host closed the connection 1101740390 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1101740563 J * infowolfe infowolfe@infowolfe.vps.xhcl.net 1101740591 Q * DuckMaster Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101742331 Q * Plug Quit: changing servers 1101742383 Q * id_ Quit: Verlassend 1101742491 J * Plug plug@datadot.net 1101742881 Q * Plug Quit: changing servers 1101743111 J * Plug plug@datadot.net 1101743473 Q * Plug Quit: changing servers 1101743791 J * Plug plug@datadot.net 1101744212 Q * berni Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101744422 Q * Plug Quit: changing servers 1101744447 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1101744461 M * Bertl morning folks! 1101744502 M * matti Hello Bertl :] 1101744537 J * Plug plug@datadot.net 1101744544 M * Bertl wb Plug! 1101744670 M * matti Eh. 1101745017 M * albeiro hello Bertl :) 1101745020 M * albeiro matti: ? 1101745029 M * matti ? 1101745049 M * Bertl hey albeiro! 1101745052 M * Loki|muh Bertl: you are not in Europe, are you? ;) 1101745072 M * Bertl I am in Austria, last time I checked, that was part of Europe ;) 1101745096 M * Loki|muh hrhr 1101745116 M * Loki|muh your day/night-rythm is some kind of, uhm, fucked up? ;) 1101745136 M * matti Hahaha. 1101745143 M * albeiro lol 1101745147 M * Bertl let's call it 'special' shall we? 1101745163 M * Loki|muh hehe, i searched for that word *g* 1101745169 J * DuckMaster duckx@195.75.27.158 1101745194 M * Bertl wb DuckMaster! 1101745202 M * albeiro [01:49:59] < Bertl> evening folks! 1101745208 M * albeiro not at all ;p 1101745269 M * Loki|muh Bertl: so you have to work at night? 1101745319 M * Bertl sometimes ... really depends ... 1101745338 M * albeiro SCO is unhaxxored :( 1101745359 M * albeiro long time somebody noticed 1101745416 M * matti Heh. 1101745668 J * Val val@gj403.loria.fr 1101745698 M * Bertl welcome Val! 1101745711 M * Val Hi Bertl :) 1101745992 Q * Plug Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101746118 Q * eyck Quit: leaving 1101746446 M * DuckMaster Hy Bertl 1101746455 M * DuckMaster I am at Novell office now :) 1101746466 M * DuckMaster I made that job mine :) 1101746503 M * Loki|muh and now? party? ;) 1101746537 M * Bertl DuckMaster: great, now you can work on linux-vserver full day, yep? 1101746573 N * Val Val_away 1101746806 Q * BWare Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10 1101746915 J * Plug plug@datadot.net 1101746984 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1101746994 M * Bertl welcome eyck! 1101747025 M * eyck hi Bertl! 1101747031 M * eyck I've got new HDD! :) 1101747040 M * Bertl sounds good ... 1101747057 M * eyck yeah! finally I'll be ably to fit OE 1101747215 Q * eyck Quit: 1101747502 Q * sannes Read error: Connection reset by peer 1101747531 M * brc Hollow: good 1101747552 J * eyck eyck@81.219.64.71 1101747645 M * eyck ok, now I'm really back.. 1101747662 M * eyck and without that hdd=ide-scsi on my brand new shiny harddrive.... 1101747716 M * Bertl hey eyck, do you know what 'ip addr add/del' really do kernel side? I mean in detail ... 1101747729 M * eyck nope, 1101747738 M * eyck haven't you got alexey kuznietsov around? 1101747756 M * Bertl unfortunately not ... 1101747768 M * eyck but I know in vague hand-waving terms what it does... ;) 1101747771 M * eyck if that helps ;) 1101747779 M * Bertl maybe, let's hear ... 1101747863 M * eyck hmm, I think I can't translate all that hand-waving to irc... I thought I can.. but clearly I can't use emoticons that well.. 1101747930 M * eyck but it does modify this 'better' list of addresses, that alexey created.... I think 1101747973 M * Bertl heh, well, that is what I expected ... 1101748016 M * eyck you and me man, you and me, no technical problem can resist us! 1101748025 M * eyck oh, this new hdd makes me so emotional... 1101748026 M * eyck sorry.. 1101748050 M * Bertl okay, tx, enjoy your HDD ;) 1101748090 M * eyck yeah, anyone here successfully moved their main X server under vserver control? 1101748157 M * eyck so, about this vnet thing that vnet guys are using... 1101748337 M * Bertl hmm, what vnet guys? 1101748387 Q * grecea Remote host closed the connection 1101748449 J * grecea grecea@h-195-22-237-74.mdl.net 1101748503 M * Bertl wb grecea! 1101748693 M * DuckMaster Bertl, : Well 1101748707 M * DuckMaster I got to work on Novell product first :( 1101748745 M * eyck xen guys 1101748747 M * eyck sorry, 1101748768 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de 1101748770 M * eyck xen guys are using some vnet to create virtual nets between kernels.. 1101748784 M * eyck this might be easily adaptable to vserver 1101748817 M * eyck low-overhead secure separation without using vpns 1101749249 M * Bertl welcome ensc!? 1101749270 M * Bertl eyck: hmm, guess I'm working on something better ... but yeah why not 1101749454 M * eyck hmm, 1101749460 M * eyck oh well, if it's better. 1101749464 M * eyck can't wait to meet it 1101749480 M * Bertl hmm, want to hack on it? 1101749500 M * eyck hmm, i'm still on 2.4.. so probably it wont work for me... 1101749520 M * Bertl ah, right, but now with your shiny new HDD? *hint* 1101749540 M * Bertl ensc: are you here? 1101749562 M * eyck hmm, I could play with qemu 1101749590 M * Bertl recent vserver kernel works really nice with qemu-fast ... 1101749641 M * Bertl if you get qemu 0.6.1 installed I can provide a working kernel config and qemu cmd line 1101749647 M * eyck cool, time to dust off my vserver building vserver :) 1101749701 M * eyck ok, working on it. 1101749835 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.7-ng4.config 1101749842 M * Bertl (kernel config) 1101749866 M * Bertl this doesn't need any kernel patches for qemu ... 1101749880 M * eyck woa? and it works with qemu-fast? 1101749886 M * Bertl yep 1101749902 M * eyck how is it possible? 1101749946 M * eyck hmm, ther is no 2.6.10-rc2 on ftp.kernel.org :( 1101749951 M * Bertl simple, linux-vserver kernels include my memory split patches, and my varhz patches ... 1101749961 M * eyck oh, testing/ 1101750210 M * eyck QEMU PC emulator version 0.6.1, Copyright (c) 2003-2004 Fabrice Bellard 1101750247 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.7.1.diff 1101750290 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/TEST_32M_public.img.bz2 1101750390 M * Bertl qemu-fast -nographic -L qemu-0.6.1/pc-bios -m 64 -snapshot -hda IMGs/TESTn_32M.img -kernel linux-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.7.1-P1/arch/i386/boot/bzImage -append "rw root=/dev/hda1 devfs=mount" 1101750396 M * Bertl (typical startline here) 1101750733 M * Hollow Bertl: what about per context quota with 1.9.3? any doc? 1101750771 M * Bertl on a shared partition or with separate partitions? 1101750786 M * Hollow i've one lvm partition per vserver 1101750815 M * Bertl will be insecure for now, but should work, you have to copy over the real device node (or create it inside the vserver) 1101750838 M * Hollow so.. cp /dev/vs/www1 /vs/www1/dev/hdv1? 1101750846 M * Bertl when there is demand, I'll forward port the vroot device ... 1101750856 M * Bertl cp -va is better ;) 1101750860 M * Hollow k :) 1101750904 M * Hollow Bertl: so only thing to do is usrquota,grpquota on the hosts fstab? 1101750906 Q * DuckMaster Quit: Leaving 1101750965 M * Bertl no, vservers mtab, and I'd suggest using filetype ufs with that 1101750985 M * Bertl (similar to 2.4 quota) 1101750992 M * Hollow ok :) 1101751569 M * Hollow hm.. where should bug reports for alpha util go to? ml? 1101751587 M * Bertl would say ml and cc to enrico 1101751608 M * Bertl (btw, I'm worried about enrico, has anybody talked to him lately?) 1101751649 J * [HvD] Miranda@chello212017106212.graz.surfer.at 1101751664 M * Bertl welcome [HvD]! 1101751674 M * [HvD] morgen bertl ;-) 1101751746 M * [HvD] bertl: should the apha tools setup the namespace correct $CONFDIR/fstab or it this work in progress ? 1101751767 M * Loki|muh another guy with a 'special' day/night rythm *g* 1101751827 M * Bertl [HvD]: namespace itself should be setup properly, if the fstab mounts will work as expected, I don't know ... ensc is the man there ... 1101751835 M * [HvD] Lokilmuh: me ? no its gmt-1 here ;-) 1101751887 M * [HvD] bertl: ok i will check with enrico .. 1101751944 M * [HvD] yust to rule out a common configuration error: 1101751952 M * [HvD] this should work: 1101751952 M * [HvD] fw0:/etc/vservers/forward-0# cat fstab 1101751952 M * [HvD] none /proc proc defaults 0 0 1101751952 M * [HvD] none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1101751953 M * [HvD] none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 1101751968 M * [HvD] \/dev/mapper/main_vg-vservers_forward--0_lv / reiserfs defaults 0 0 1101752050 M * Bertl I'm not convinced that the last one will work without the devmapper entry copied to the vservers dev 1101752278 M * rs hey bertl 1101752292 M * Hollow quota works, great :) Bertl: why is it insecure to copy the device file? 1101752307 M * rs quota with 2.6 ? 1101752314 M * Hollow yep 1101752334 M * rs huh ? is this new ? 1101752372 M * Hollow actually i never enabled quota in my kernel and it works great inside a vserver, heh 1101752374 M * eyck woa... 1101752379 M * Bertl hey rs! 1101752380 M * eyck it actually feels quite fast 1101752387 M * Zoiah Bertl: you remember the problem with entering a context with the legacy support? If I remove the '--secure' from the chcontext-compat line it works. 1101752444 M * Bertl yes, that sounds sensible .. but check your caps inside the vserver after that 1101752444 M * rs Hollow: so are you sure it works ? 1101752463 M * Zoiah Bertl: my caps aren't 'secure' then, I'm sure. :) 1101752476 M * Hollow www1 root # quotacheck -am 1101752476 M * Hollow www1 root # repquota -a 1101752476 M * Hollow *** Report for user quotas on device /dev/hdv1 1101752476 M * Hollow Block grace time: 7days; Inode grace time: 7days 1101752476 M * Hollow Block limits File limits 1101752477 M * Hollow User used soft hard grace used soft hard grace 1101752477 M * Zoiah Bertl: when I get time I'll just migrate to the new config style and be done with it. :) 1101752479 M * Hollow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1101752481 M * Hollow root -- 295148 0 0 21635 0 0 1101752483 M * Bertl Hollow: with the device node inside the vserver, any vserver root user can wipe out the lvm partition or do other evil things to your system ... 1101752483 M * Hollow mysql -- 0 0 0 5 0 0 1101752485 M * Hollow apache -- 0 0 0 4 0 0 1101752487 M * Hollow portage -- 32 0 0 84 0 0 1101752496 M * Hollow Bertl: mhm... 1101752534 M * Bertl Zoiah: nevertheless it should be fixed, and I'm really worried about enrico ... 1101752544 M * Hollow since noone will ever get root on these vservers this won't hurt :) 1101752548 M * Zoiah Bertl: indeed. :) 1101752560 M * rs Bertl: why ? no news about him? 1101752560 M * Bertl Hollow: then it should be fine ... 1101752588 M * Bertl rs: haven't heard from him for over two weeks now, or even longer ... 1101752606 M * Bertl just the irc conenction fades in and out ... 1101752768 M * rs did you try to send him an email ? 1101752878 M * Bertl not yet .. but I will ... for sure ... 1101752959 M * rs well, gotta go, another day with no vserver hacking :( 1101752986 M * rs cya 1101752995 Q * rs Quit: home 1101753204 M * Bertl eyck: it has improved a lot over time ... 1101753274 M * eyck it's quite impressive... looks like last few months/weeks brought some visible improvements 1101754238 J * UFOczek ufoczek@hood.openbug.net 1101754243 M * Bertl welcome UFOczek! 1101754249 M * UFOczek hey Bertl. 1101754252 M * UFOczek is that automsg ? 1101754308 M * Bertl well, no ... 1101754353 M * eyck well, kind of actually... 1101754467 J * sannes ace@home.skarby.no 1101754508 M * Bertl greetings sannes! 1101754519 M * eyck see 1101756111 M * Bertl that just shows that I'm a friendly guy ... right? 1101756378 J * vdb vdb@d51A4E1B8.kabel.telenet.be 1101756384 M * Bertl hello vdb! 1101756405 M * vdb hello Bertl 1101757417 Q * ndim Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101757747 J * ndim U2FsdGVkX1@helena.bawue.de 1101758029 M * Bertl wb ndim! 1101759046 J * berni berni@2001:1b18:202::2 1101759087 M * Bertl hey berni! 1101759106 M * berni hey 1101759127 M * berni again I accidentally stopped that irssi-session :-\ 1101759156 M * Bertl well, happens ... 1101759169 M * berni true 1101759176 M * berni but sucks nethertheless 1101760069 M * Bertl okay, back later ... 1101760074 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1101761647 J * click click@dsl-84-161.aal.tiscali.no 1101767525 Q * vdb Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10 1101769041 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1101769087 J * Hollow bene@home.xnull.de 1101769550 M * Bertl_oO okay, off for today ... 1101769555 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1101769671 Q * meebey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1101770250 Q * [HvD] Read error: Connection reset by peer