1100651076 J * ntrs ntrs@SP2-24.207.228.55.charter-stl.com
1100653112 Q * rs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100655381 Q * cereal Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100656584 M * Doener mugwump: i actually meant to attach the patch ;) thanks
1100656639 M * mugwump hate it when that happens
1100656816 M * Doener what happens?
1100656940 M * mugwump forgetting attachments
1100657523 M * Doener happens to me every second time i try to send one...
1100657558 M * mugwump I notice that kmail asks you if you've forgotten something if you have "Please find attached" in your e-mail :)
1100657603 M * Doener ehehe
1100659163 J * cereal cereal@ns1.starhosting.de
1100665951 Q * tchan Quit: leaving
1100666041 J * tchan tchan@c-24-13-81-164.client.comcast.net
1100666296 Q * Shuri Quit: Leaving
1100666936 J * _no_x vps@c207008.adsl.hansenet.de
1100667032 Q * no_x Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100667035 N * _no_x no_x
1100676565 Q * BWare Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100677095 Q * Bertl_zZ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100677281 Q * id_ Remote host closed the connection
1100677802 M * eyck hmm
1100677810 M * eyck about copy-on-write filesystem...
1100677811 M * eyck On the s/390 platform, we have a new filesystem called XIP2.  This is a
1100677811 M * eyck shared-memory filesystem based on ext2, which can be shared among any
1100677811 M * eyck number of guests.  Basically you populate the XIP2 fs and then "freeze"
1100677811 M * eyck it and share it.
1100677834 M * eyck  http://oss.software.ibm.com/linux390/linux-2.6.5-s390-04-april2004.shtml
1100677865 M * eyck supposedly this XIP2 is already in mainstream kernel 
1100678522 M * Val mornin'
1100678570 J * BWare bware@212.26.196.41
1100678677 M * ndim Is that patch-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.diff available somewhere?
1100678926 M * mugwump 04:49 < Doener> hm, porting to rc2 may take some time...
1100678926 M * mugwump 04:49 < Bertl> ah?
1100678926 M * mugwump 04:50 < Bertl> haven't had a look yet ...
1100678926 M * mugwump 04:53 < Doener> doener@doener ~/kernel/linux-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3 $ patch -p1 
1100678926 M * mugwump                 --dry-run -F0 -s < ../patch-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.diff | wc -l
1100678928 M * mugwump 04:53 < Doener> 26
1100678930 M * mugwump 04:54 < Bertl> and without -F0 ?
1100678933 M * mugwump 04:54 < Bertl> and -l instead?
1100678936 M * mugwump 04:55 < Doener> 16
1100678938 M * mugwump 04:55 < Doener> -l makes no difference
1100678941 M * mugwump 04:55 < Bertl> okay ...
1100678942 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@janus.mc.tuwien.ac.at
1100678966 A * mugwump brings bertl_zz a nice hot cup of tea
1100678994 M * ndim . o O :)
1100679017 M * ndim Wb Bertl! :)
1100679032 M * mugwump it might be autojoin of course ;)
1100679072 M * ndim Nevermind. He's always so nice to greet my autorejoins, so I might as well return the favour :)
1100679085 M * mugwump heh
1100681417 Q * kalou Read error: Connection reset by peer
1100681425 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1100681438 M * Bertl morning folks!
1100681447 M * Bertl mugwump: tx for the tea ;)
1100681484 M * Bertl morning ndim!
1100681539 J * kalou kalou@AToulon-201-1-4-143.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr
1100681948 M * Hollow moin Bertl 
1100682398 M * Bertl morning Hollow!
1100682581 M * Loki|muh Bertl: the problem with the hidden processes yesterday: they were nptl threads
1100682583 M * Loki|muh ;)
1100682590 M * Loki|muh so everythings okay :)
1100682602 J * BobR_ georg@149.148.78.13
1100682624 M * Bertl Loki|muh: ah, okay ... how did you get nptl into a vserver kernel?
1100682633 M * Bertl welcome BobR_!
1100682745 P * BobR_ 
1100683515 J * rs rs@ice.aspic.com
1100683522 M * Bertl welcome rs!
1100683550 M * rs hi folks
1100685540 Q * ensc Read error: Connection reset by peer
1100685568 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1100685636 M * Bertl wb ensc!
1100686476 M * infowolfe ensc: umm
1100686480 J * jsambrook jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1100686498 M * infowolfe chbind.c line 259, shouldn't it actually report the real limit?
1100686671 M * infowolfe ensc: the problem is this, i've modified kernel/network.h line 8, #define NB_IPV4ROOT     16 to read #define NB_IPV4ROOT     32
1100686681 M * infowolfe i've also changed this in my kernels.
1100686698 M * infowolfe and your tools are borking telling me that the max ips allowed are 16.
1100686727 M * Bertl hey infowolfe!
1100686839 M * Bertl infowolfe: unfrotunately there are two locations where the NB_IPV4ROOT is defined in the kernel
1100686867 M * Bertl did you change both of them or just the one I mentioned last time?
1100686884 M * infowolfe Bertl: i changed the one in the kernel source AND the one in the userspace source
1100686890 M * infowolfe both network.h's got changed.
1100686906 M * infowolfe kernel has been rebuilt and i'm running it... the userspace tools are STILL having problems.
1100686915 M * Bertl there is also one in linux/vserver/legacy.h
1100686927 M * infowolfe *sigh*
1100686952 M * Bertl well, it's a legacy ... and network wasn't cleaned up yet ...
1100687023 M * infowolfe Bertl: why would it fail telling me the afformentioned line from chbind.c?
1100687029 J * rs_ rs@elijah.aspic.com
1100687064 Q * rs_ Quit: 
1100687069 M * Bertl infowolfe: was just an idea ... haven't tested it yet
1100687435 M * infowolfe Bertl: is there any way i could get something a little more concrete? :-\
1100687442 M * infowolfe i can't reboot this machine at will at the moment
1100687567 M * Bertl what do you expect?
1100687575 M * infowolfe lol
1100687576 M * infowolfe i dunno
1100687580 M * infowolfe i'm gonna go grep like mad
1100687613 M * Bertl well, I can change the NB_IPV4ROOTs in kernel and tools and try if that helps you?
1100687640 M * infowolfe what's NB_S_CONTEXT?
1100687657 M * Bertl legacy stuff for specifying contexts
1100687665 M * infowolfe Bertl: if you could test, that would be wondeful of you
1100687715 M * infowolfe NB_IPV4ROOT is in 4 files total, include/linux/vserver/legacy.h and network.h AND kernel/legacy.h and network.h
1100687892 M * infowolfe Bertl: do you know of any other places the ip limits are defined?
1100688097 Q * Val Quit: BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it.
1100688121 M * Bertl infowolfe: give me a moment to try it for you ...
1100688256 M * infowolfe ok
1100688257 M * infowolfe thanks
1100688892 M * Bertl # chbind --ip 10.0.0.1 --ip 10.0.0.2 --ip 10.0.0.3 --ip 10.0.0.4 --ip 10.0.0.5 --ip 10.0.0.6 --ip 10.0.0.7 --ip 10.0.0.8 --ip 10.0.0.9 --ip 10.0.0.10 --ip 10.0.0.11 --ip 10.0.0.12 --ip 10.0.0.13 --ip 10.0.0.14 --ip 10.0.0.15 --ip 10.0.0.16 --ip 10..0.17 --ip 10.0.0.18 --ip 10.0.0.1 --ip 10.0.0.20 --ip 10.0.0.21 --ip 10.0.0.22 --ip 10.0.0.23 --ip 10.0.0.24 --ip 10.0.0.25 --ip 10.0.0.26 --ip 10.0.0.27 --ip 10.0.0.28 --ip 10.0.0.29 --ip 10.0.0.30 --ip 1
1100688899 M * Bertl ipv4root is now 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 10.0.0.4 10.0.0.5 10.0.0.6 10.0.0.7 10.0.0.8 10.0.0.9 10.0.0.10 10.0.0.11 10.0.0.12 10.0.0.13 10.0.0.14 10.0.0.15 10.0.0.16 10.0.0.17 10.0.0.18 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.20 10.0.0.21 10.0.0.22 10.0.0.23 10.0.0.24 10.0.0.25 10.0.0.26 10.0.0.27 10.0.0.28 10.0.0.29 10.0.0.30 10.0.0.31 10.0.0.32
1100688903 M * TheSeer öh ;)
1100688904 M * Bertl works fine ;)
1100688916 M * TheSeer zero overflow error on line 1
1100688917 M * TheSeer *g*
1100688943 M * Bertl ;)
1100688956 M * meebey re
1100688977 M * meebey Bertl: I am having strange problems on 2 servers now
1100688980 M * meebey Bertl: both have 1.29
1100688986 M * Bertl let's hear!
1100688990 M * meebey Bertl: I never had that problem before
1100688998 M * meebey ok lemme explain
1100689004 M * meebey I login on the host
1100689009 M * meebey on tty1
1100689015 M * meebey then I type some commands
1100689020 M * meebey after some time, maybe 30 minutes
1100689024 M * meebey the console freezes
1100689031 M * meebey no further keypresses are accepted
1100689041 M * meebey but the server continues to run
1100689044 M * meebey I can logon via ssh
1100689046 M * meebey all ok
1100689055 M * meebey also on num-lock or magic keys no reaction
1100689068 M * Bertl maybe some kind of screen blanker/locker?
1100689068 M * meebey the process (bash) is still running according to ps aux
1100689098 M * meebey Bertl: the screen got black now (console screensaver?) but I cant get the console back
1100689112 M * meebey probably because no keyboard input is taken anymore
1100689123 M * meebey mirco.b   2108  0.0  0.4  2216 1240 tty1     S    Nov11   0:00 -bash
1100689126 M * meebey thats the process
1100689148 M * meebey since this is now the 2. server where I got this problem, and both have pretty freshly 1.29
1100689164 M * meebey we got 18 servers, all use the same system
1100689167 M * meebey (via images)
1100689181 M * meebey and most have vserver enabled kernel by now
1100689187 M * Bertl okay, so what's special about those servers?
1100689188 M * meebey and those too have vs1.29
1100689208 M * meebey Bertl: special?
1100689211 M * Bertl what about the kernel version?
1100689217 M * meebey both 2.4.27
1100689225 M * meebey exact same kernel btw
1100689230 M * meebey _exact_ even binary the same
1100689248 M * Bertl yeah, but I mean, the other, working servers do have 2.4.27 too?
1100689262 M * meebey one sec I got a list
1100689267 M * meebey I will update and upload it the list
1100689267 M * meebey ok?
1100689282 M * Bertl check also for 'special' hardware (i.e chipset)
1100689289 M * meebey k
1100689293 M * meebey oh
1100689296 M * meebey yes
1100689300 M * meebey 3ware raid
1100689302 M * meebey both
1100689320 M * Bertl infowolfe: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-2.6.9-vs1.9.3-net64.diff and http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/util-vserver-0.30.196-net64.diff.bz2
1100689341 M * Bertl you can get a mandrake src rpm too ;)
1100689410 M * infowolfe lol
1100689496 J * Val val@gj403.loria.fr
1100689498 M * infowolfe thanks for the drake src rpm.. but y'know i'm sorry, i won't convert... lol
1100689512 M * Bertl welcome Val!
1100689520 M * Val Hi Bertl
1100689536 M * infowolfe Bertl: does it have to be 64?
1100689539 M * infowolfe in order to work?
1100689593 M * Bertl nope, was just an idea I had .. (for the case you come back and want more next time ... ;)
1100689605 M * infowolfe lol, thanks Bertl 
1100689611 M * infowolfe all mine are set at 32 though :-p
1100689787 M * Val Bertl : i'm compiling a new 2.4.27-vs1.29-q0.14 debian kernel, i forgot one reject in my previous version of the delta 2.4.27-3-vs1.29 to 2.4.27-3-vs1.29-q0.14 :(
1100689817 M * Val Bertl : you can view rejects & delta at http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver
1100689907 M * Bertl ah, and I forgot to upload my version ;)
1100689914 M * Val hehe :)
1100689969 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29-q0.14.diff
1100690053 M * Bertl you tested with the ACL flag removed (but acl compiled in) right?
1100690064 M * Val right
1100690074 M * Bertl okay, if that worked, my patch should be fine ...
1100690108 M * Val mmmmh
1100690140 M * Val diff between your patch and mine tell me i have to restart compilation...
1100690290 J * mhepp mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz
1100690488 J * hellekin hellekin@voltaire-1-81-57-78-177.fbx.proxad.net
1100690494 M * hellekin helloo
1100690517 M * Val Bertl : got a reject
1100690526 M * Val Bertl : in fs/ioctl.c
1100690668 M * Bertl then you have a different version of 2.4.27-3-vs1.29 than I do?
1100690686 M * Val i think
1100690706 M * Bertl we should try to avoid that ;)
1100690712 M * Val yes
1100690730 M * Val did you get your one in kernel-patch-ctx from Ola ?
1100690767 M * Bertl nope
1100690770 M * Val or else is it the one you made for me ?
1100690776 M * Bertl probably ... sec
1100690844 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29.diff
1100690874 M * Bertl maybe that version wasn't the latest ... please compare to yours ...
1100690886 M * Val ok
1100690889 M * Bertl okay, off for lunch now, back later ...
1100690896 M * Val me too
1100690896 M * Val :)
1100690927 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1100691014 M * meebey Bertl_oO: www.meebey.net/temp/Console-Freeze-Report.pdf
1100691185 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100691644 J * infowolfe infowolfe@ns30831.ovh.net
1100692437 M * matti :]
1100693002 M * Hollow do the alpha tools work without legacy api?
1100693396 M * infowolfe no
1100693422 M * infowolfe Hollow: no, the legacy api isn't completely gone yet
1100693430 M * Hollow ok :)
1100693461 M * infowolfe from what i hear, things break rather loudly if the legacy api isn't there
1100693664 Q * mhepp Remote host closed the connection
1100693705 M * Hollow just updated the guide a bit...
1100693760 M * Hollow infowolfe: what about your guest info stuff, you mailed me for?
1100693785 M * infowolfe Hollow: didn't email it to you yet
1100693794 M * Hollow what is it about?
1100693800 M * infowolfe i want my machine live before that happens
1100693813 M * infowolfe it's mods to gentoo to allow the guest to run without issue from a standard tarball
1100693833 M * Hollow only the init scripts, or more changes?
1100694026 M * infowolfe more changes
1100694103 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1100694124 M * Hollow re Bertl, i updated the guide/ebuilds with your suggestions
1100694136 M * Bertl great!
1100694155 M * Hollow you can have a look at http://home.xnull.de/work/gentoo/vserver/guide
1100694212 M * Hollow i'll update the guide @ oss.croup.de from time to time, to not confuse users with intermediate changes
1100694215 M * Bertl meebey: interesting ...
1100696716 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100696912 M * Loki|muh Hollow: nice
1100696925 M * Hollow .9
1100696928 M * Hollow :)
1100697116 M * Val .
1100697348 J * monrad monrad@213083190130.sonofon.dk
1100697355 M * Bertl welcome monrad!
1100697377 M * Val Bertl : diff between your 2.4.27-3-vs1.29 and mine : http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/diff-patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29-Bertl-val.diff.gz
1100697410 M * Bertl hmm, could you make that unified? -NurpP
1100697415 M * Val Bertl : rejects your patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29-q0.14 generate : http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/rej-q0.14-Bertl.txt
1100697424 M * Val Bertl : yes sorry
1100697427 M * Bertl tx
1100697491 M * Val unified diff : http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/diff-patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29-Bertl-val.diff.gz
1100697534 M * Bertl the first is your version, the second mine, or the other way round?
1100697551 M * Val other way
1100697559 M * Bertl okay, just found the first lines ;)
1100697563 M * Val :)
1100697611 M * Bertl hmm, okay, let's redo that with -NurpbBP ;)
1100697618 M * Val ok
1100697651 M * Val same URI
1100697654 M * Val updated
1100697659 M * Bertl ;)
1100697670 M * Bertl okay, guess it's fine then ;)
1100697680 M * hellekin so Bertl, you found a new player for debian vserver ? ;o)
1100697696 M * Bertl Val isn't new at all ...
1100697697 M * Val huhu, just 4 me ;)
1100697717 M * hellekin well, he's been newing vserver stuff for a long time ;o)
1100697751 M * Val hellekin : you're my fisrt package's beta tester =)
1100697751 M * hellekin so, val, are we ready for an upgrade ? Quota++
1100697774 M * hellekin val : i'm very happy 'bout that. Hope it's smoother than the 2.6. ;opp
1100697777 M * Val hk : were pretty close to i think
1100697792 M * monrad hi
1100697797 M * monrad i am a bit slow today
1100697804 M * hellekin ok, i'll let you guyz do real work. bbl =8)
1100697807 M * Val hk : 2.6.9 from debian staff is tooo buggy 
1100697809 M * Bertl Val: as you probably saw (with your diff) it should be fine, but my patch has less whitespace garbage ...
1100697825 M * Val yes
1100697860 M * hellekin Bertl : val's salary is : 200*(wc -l code.sample) ;o)
1100697861 M * Val but the final one you gave me make a reject on file ./fs/ioctl.c.rej
1100697886 M * Bertl try with -l (for patch)
1100697897 M * Val hum
1100697899 M * Val ok
1100697899 A * hellekin is outa here
1100697904 M * Bertl cya
1100697933 M * eyck oh, 
1100697950 M * eyck I see some movement on 2.4.27 front?
1100697974 M * Bertl yeah, debian is trying to catch up ;)
1100697993 M * eyck great.
1100698011 M * Bertl or to be precise, debian user base is catching up!
1100698021 M * hellekin more precisely : debian users got angry at not seeing any news from the vserver front, and catching-up
1100698034 M * hellekin yes Bertl
1100698075 M * Val Bertl : your patch apply fine with -l option
1100698094 M * Val Bertl : gonna compile new kernel and then test it, many thanks
1100698120 M * Bertl okay, if you take both patches from me, then they should apply fine ontop of eachother too ...
1100698121 M * Val o-oops
1100698124 M * Val arg
1100698133 M * Val got a reject in fact
1100698172 M * Bertl hmm?
1100698191 M * eyck hmm, and what exactly is wrong with debian + 2.4.27 ? 
1100698191 M * Val http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/rej-q0.14-Bertl-2.txt
1100698214 M * Val eyck : 'm just trying to get quota support with q0.14 patch
1100698226 M * eyck oh, quota... yeah...right.
1100698297 M * Bertl okay, what's at this location in your source, Val?
1100698307 M * Val 'm searching 
1100698351 M * Val not found
1100698363 M * Val :-/
1100698397 M * Val see http://vallar.linuxfr.org/vserver/ioctl.c
1100698447 M * Val thre is no 'case FIOC_SETXFLG:'
1100698468 M * Val another debian shit
1100698505 M * monrad is vserver-copy going to work with the newstyle configuration?
1100698672 M * Bertl Val: hmm, I have a problem ... it seems something at your site isn't consistent ...
1100698681 M * Val oh ?
1100698690 M * Bertl grepdiff --output-matching=hunk FIOC_GETXFLG patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29.diff
1100698698 M * Bertl lists this change as the first hunk
1100698714 M * Bertl you showed me, that your patch is identical to mine, so where was that lost?
1100698754 M * Val i did my own vs1.29-q0.14 delta but i'm pretty poor for that
1100698763 M * Val don't care about mine
1100698787 M * Bertl ahem, that is in the vs1.29 patch for debian 2.4.27-3 ?!
1100698816 M * Val no
1100698821 M * Bertl yes!
1100698839 M * Val reject appear only on your last 2.4.27-3-vs1.29-q0.14
1100698843 M * Val +s
1100698858 M * Bertl okay, once again, this time slowly:
1100698864 M * Val ok
1100698877 M * Bertl vanilla 2.4.27 + some_crufty_patch -> 2.4.27-3
1100698887 M * Val ok
1100698898 M * Bertl ontop of that there is patch-2.4.27-3-vs1.29.diff (my version)
1100698906 M * Val ok
1100698922 M * Bertl this contains a hunk adding the case FIOC_GETXFLG: stuff
1100698934 M * Val yup
1100698934 M * Bertl (no thought of q0.14 yet)
1100698962 M * Bertl now the q0.14 patch _ontop_ of that requires this stuff
1100698980 M * Bertl but for some reason it seems missing when you apply it?!
1100698986 M * Val oh
1100699004 M * Val ok, perhaps i did a fault
1100699028 M * eyck that stupid debian shit, shouldn't they modify patch so it guesses that you've made a mistake and compensate for it?
1100699049 M * Bertl yeah, that'd be cool!
1100699059 M * Val retrying...
1100699062 M * Val (sorry i'm not very english proof)
1100699084 M * eyck in this case, I won't make fun of you no more.
1100699092 M * Val thanks :)
1100699222 M * Val Bertl : that's my fault, i didn't apply vs1.29 patch _before_ your q0.14 patch... shame on me, sorry for time lost :-/
1100699295 M * Bertl np
1100699955 Q * monrad Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100703077 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100703334 J * ensc ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
1100703775 M * Val Bertl : i can tell you that removing #define of EXT2_MOUNT_XATTR_USER when applying q0.14 patch makes compilation fail for Debian sources (from Ext2/3 ACL debian own patch)...
1100703780 M * Val super.c:205: error: `EXT2_MOUNT_XATTR_USER' undeclared (first use in this function)
1100703784 M * Val super.c:205: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
1100703788 M * Val ...
1100704262 M * Bertl Val: hmm, didn't you say you checked that yesterday?
1100704294 M * Val yes... but with my patch wich was fool
1100704308 M * Val and onlu compilation stuff
1100704315 M * Val onlY
1100704332 M * Val seems my patch was realy a bad patch
1100704401 M * Val could we change define value for one of the two define ?
1100704415 M * Val and then preserve both ?
1100704419 M * Bertl that is why I wanted to know yesterday ;)
1100704427 M * Bertl okay, give me a minute ...
1100704432 M * Val no problem
1100704440 M * Val don't be in a hurry :)
1100704511 M * Doener morning!
1100704545 M * Doener Bertl: http://doener.homeip.net/doener/vserver/almost-patch-2.6.10-rc2-vs1.9.3.diff
1100704555 M * Val ok
1100704559 M * Doener that one still has some rejects, wasn't sure how to fix them
1100704612 M * Val let's test it
1100704651 Q * Shotygun Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1100704691 M * Val .../clear
1100704695 M * Val grumpf
1100705739 J * Shuri Dew@dsl.speedline209.226.electronicbox.net
1100705782 M * Bertl welcome Shuri!
1100705788 M * Shuri thx Bertl  
1100705929 M * rs [OT] is someone know how to tell to rpm that a package is installed to satify some ugly dependency (like on the kernel in a vserver)?
1100705966 M * Bertl   --justdb                         update the database, but do not modify the
1100705981 M * Bertl filesystem
1100706061 M * rs yeah, it's not easy to do this way, I remembered about something in /etc/rpm..something
1100706078 M * Bertl huh?
1100706090 M * rs a file where you put a list of package name that rpm can consider as installed
1100706345 M * Shuri Bertl,  is there a stable patch for 2.4.28
1100706585 M * Val 2.4.28-rc3 you main
1100706587 M * Val mean
1100706631 M * Shuri The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is:   2.4.28  
1100706656 M * Val hu
1100706657 M * Shuri with a fix for my ata chipset!:)
1100706835 M * Bertl it's astounding, time is fleeting ...
1100707564 M * Shuri linux-2.4.28.tar.bz2              17-Nov-2004 03:54
1100707574 M * Shuri is very fresh release
1100708839 J * monrad monrad@213.83.190.130
1100709162 M * eyck hmm, 
1100709186 M * eyck damn, haven't they got anything else to do? another release, oh my
1100710289 M * Bertl Val: seems my connection is currently so bad that I cant test the latest patch .. but I'll try to upload it ...
1100710593 J * DuckKing Duck@dyn-83-155-95-203.ppp.tiscali.fr
1100710629 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ...
1100710634 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1100710763 M * Val Bertl : np
1100710779 M * Val Bertl : we'll see that tomorow
1100710790 M * Val ...back home
1100710799 N * Val Val_away
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1100712318 M * kalou rs: about rpm, you might install a package, specifying --justdb to install only some "virtual files", not the real files them selves
1100712894 M * rs kalou: ya but you need the package to do this
1100712928 M * rs not a big deal but I was searching for another solution
1100713612 M * matti Eh.
1100713614 M * matti :-)
1100713627 M * matti I love my awsome Pentium 166 MMX machine :]
1100713631 M * matti albeiro: :D
1100713644 M * albeiro so do i with my 133 ;]
1100713656 M * albeiro very nice machine for radio ;]
1100713658 M * albeiro will be
1100713702 M * matti Is not too slow for decode mp3 stream?
1100713801 M * albeiro 128 kbit/s ?
1100713807 M * albeiro if it is, i have P200 also
1100713819 M * matti Hmm...
1100713822 M * albeiro lying somewhere around
1100713838 M * albeiro how fast is 166 comparing to 133 ?
1100713847 M * albeiro could you do some test with such a stream ?
1100713858 M * matti Hm, 133 don't have MMX?
1100713861 M * albeiro underclock this thing ;]
1100713868 M * albeiro no, it does not have
1100713874 M * matti So...
1100713888 M * matti 166 is a little bit faster than 133 :]
1100713922 M * albeiro exactly
1100713922 M * matti Hehhehe.
1100713929 M * matti 166 is good for SETI :D
1100713935 M * albeiro looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
1100713959 M * matti :D
1100713961 M * albeiro for Yet Another Testing Vserver Instalation ;]
1100713975 M * matti Maybe.
1100713977 M * matti :]
1100713987 M * matti I've only 1.2 GB HDD :D
1100714018 M * albeiro i am in far better situation - 3x1GB scsi :)
1100714027 M * matti Whoa!
1100714039 M * albeiro two fuitsu and one ibm
1100714042 M * matti :D
1100714048 M * matti IBM sucks :D
1100714049 M * albeiro over 4 MB/s each
1100714072 M * albeiro also two nice adaptec controlers
1100714080 M * albeiro one with bios
1100714088 M * albeiro so i can boot system from scsi
1100714098 M * matti OMG :]
1100714104 M * albeiro i have some redhat 7.3 afaik there
1100714105 M * matti It's a true rocket :]
1100714110 M * albeiro rotfl
1100714117 M * albeiro 64 MB ram ;]
1100714124 M * matti 16 MB :/
1100714136 M * albeiro man.... do you feel this power ?
1100714141 M * matti Yeeeeeeehhh...
1100714142 M * matti :D
1100714157 M * matti My cat also :]
1100714202 M * matti BTW, can I setup NetBSD on 8086? I guess not :/
1100714237 M * matti Hmm...
1100714250 M * albeiro netbsd ? is it full 32 bit os ?
1100714255 M * albeiro would had to check...
1100714264 M * albeiro you can play with minix btw
1100714269 M * albeiro it is very nice, i like it :)
1100714318 M * matti Minix...
1100714322 M * matti You're right :]
1100714338 M * matti With 8 MHz pure POWER.
1100714346 M * albeiro and you acn hack its kernel in every way you ever dreamed about
1100714351 M * albeiro can even ;]
1100714357 M * albeiro it is quite simple ;]
1100714359 M * matti :]
1100714381 M * eyck hmm, you ported vserver to minix?
1100714392 M * matti eyck: Not yet :D
1100714392 M * matti Hehehe.
1100714394 M * albeiro not yet, do you need one ? ;p
1100714433 M * albeiro matti: btw - do you know, that (thx to very good rsbac design) RSBAC port to minix would be easy ? ;p
1100714436 M * eyck yeah, why not, I could use one, I've got 24M unupgredable laptop
1100714447 M * matti albeiro: LOL, how?
1100714464 M * albeiro well, most of things would not change, they are OS independent
1100714482 M * matti albeiro: But, RSBAC require >= 2.4.x kernels?
1100714495 M * eyck I think netbsd runs on some less-then-32bit oses...
1100714500 M * eyck I'm positive.
1100714507 M * albeiro matti: no, it was started for 2.2
1100714512 M * matti albeiro: Hmm...
1100714515 M * eyck it runs on some 30 bit vaxes
1100714530 M * albeiro matti: and even better - only OS dependent parts would need to be rewritten, not all
1100714535 M * matti albeiro: But Minix kernel equals to Linux 0.01 or so?
1100714550 M * eyck hmm, hell, even linux runs on 31 bit machines and I even installed one..
1100714559 M * albeiro well, i do not think about full blown RSBAC port ;]
1100714575 M * albeiro but theoreticaly it would be possible in some way
1100714579 M * matti albeiro: ;-P
1100714581 M * albeiro like it is possible with bsd :)
1100714591 M * albeiro anyway, eyck seems to be right
1100714601 M * matti albeiro: You always can port RSBAC on BSD :D
1100714611 M * albeiro netbsd can even trun on my toaster
1100714620 M * albeiro s/trun/run/
1100714662 M * eyck good luck to your toasts ;) 
1100714666 M * matti Hehehehe.
1100714690 M * eyck can your toaster run netbsd xen port?
1100714807 M * albeiro duno ;p
1100714813 M * albeiro i forgot to add
1100714822 M * albeiro if i would have one ;]
1100714836 M * albeiro i eman i had, but its been few years anybody was using it ;]
1100714950 M * matti :P
1100715025 M * eyck I'm rediffing my patchset against 2.4.28... damn... every little patch fails... ( of course vserver applied cleanly )
1100715631 M * eyck hmm, 
1100715640 M * eyck why is re-vunify possible?
1100715743 M * eyck ie - when you've got common root, and then the files/blocks start moving in two different directions..  re-vunify assumes that after some times the changes cancel each-other out?
1100715798 J * gaber gaber@linuxpl.net
1100716048 M * albeiro hello gaber :)
1100716053 M * albeiro nice to see you here
1100716521 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1100716524 M * Bertl evening folks!
1100716535 M * matti Hi Bertl :]
1100716548 M * matti OMG, gaber :]
1100716555 M * matti gaber: Heeeeelllloooooo :]
1100716672 M * albeiro gaber: fell free to ask Bertl about vserver :)
1100716777 M * Bertl hmm, sounds like gaber is almost famous ...
1100716798 M * albeiro heh, lets say he is here ;]
1100716800 M * albeiro a bit
1100716800 M * gaber matti, albeiro : Hi.
1100716802 M * gaber :)
1100716818 M * Bertl hey gaber!
1100716986 A * Bertl .oO( hmm, but he doesn't talk much ;)
1100716990 M * matti :]
1100717000 M * albeiro heh
1100717003 M * matti Hehehhe.
1100717073 M * albeiro we just all know each other (matti, gaber, /me)
1100717116 M * albeiro i from that i know he will be talking... then time will come ;]
1100717128 M * albeiro (i hope gaber is reading vserver docs :P)
1100717186 M * matti Hehehehe.
1100717201 A * albeiro wonderes if it would be possible to relink application which is dynamically linked into static one
1100717224 M * matti Bertl: Hm, come to Poland :]
1100717339 M * Bertl albeiro: yes, should be possible
1100717407 M * albeiro grrgrwerrrrwrrr....
1100717417 M * albeiro Yet Another Unplanned Restart
1100717443 M * albeiro Bertl: so i will read manual for ld ;]
1100717455 M * gaber Bertl: hey :))
1100717477 M * Bertl ah he moved ... ;)
1100717481 M * albeiro matti: i think i will go buing "kebab"
1100717490 M * matti LOOOOL
1100717492 M * gaber Bertl: I'm in work. Sorry for lags :>
1100717501 M * Bertl np
1100717501 M * gaber s/in/at/
1100717505 M * albeiro (yeah, we have provieded you alive version of gaber ;)
1100717513 M * gaber heh :>
1100718757 M * Doener albeiro: be careful :)
1100718773 M * albeiro about ?
1100718792 M * Doener the kebab
1100718792 A * albeiro is goiing buy something to eat ;p
1100718796 M * albeiro eh, ok
1100718805 M * albeiro what can be wrong with it ?
1100718831 M * Doener over here it's called "Doener Kebab"... thought it might be the same in poland(?)
1100718929 M * Doener anyways... bad joke...
1100718970 M * albeiro i will go and see ;]
1100718995 M * Hollow Doener macht schoener :)
1100719014 M * Doener Bertl: do you prefer a c program to convert Pinky's logs or some on-the-fly php solution?
1100719033 M * Bertl I guess on-the-fly php would be the best solution
1100719100 M * Doener Hollow: i miss vprocunhide in your current local howto ;)
1100719185 M * monrad nice the overlay (and guide) is in svn now
1100719256 M * Hollow Doener: it's in the init script now, as Bertl suggested
1100719273 M * Doener yeah, but some note about rc-update would be nice i guess
1100719284 M * Hollow Doener: ok :)
1100719386 M * monrad is it going to be easy to have a shared portage dir?
1100719503 M * Doener Bertl:  vserver.13thfloor.at seems to be down
1100719512 M * Bertl yep, saw it a few minutes ago
1100719525 M * Doener ok
1100719542 M * Hollow monrad: should not be that difficult, i'll test it tomorrow i think...
1100719554 M * Bertl Doener: but thanks for the info!
1100719558 M * Hollow afk(dinner);
1100719567 M * Doener Hollow: you should talk to infowolfe about that, afaik he has done some work in that direction
1100719569 M * monrad its nice when all you got is 18 gb raid5
1100719591 M * Hollow Doener: yep, i would have done it, thx ;)
1100720077 M * albeiro git it :)
1100720085 M * albeiro s/git/got/
1100720087 M * albeiro ;]
1100720117 M * monrad night guys sleep tight
1100720125 M * albeiro night monrad 
1100720141 Q * monrad Quit: Leaving
1100720298 J * zzyber andreb@h111n3c1o1022.bredband.skanova.com
1100720308 M * Bertl welcome zzyber!
1100720476 M * zzyber Hi! Is it possible to patch debian kernel 2.6.9-1-686 with kernel-patch-ctx? I tried with apt-get install and installation was done without complains but when i try to make a new virtual server with newvserver i get a message that the kernel is not patched? I run debian sarge.
1100720511 Q * rs Quit: leaving
1100720526 M * Bertl zzyber: well, the default answer to that should be: go complain to the debian maintainers ...
1100720541 M * Bertl but .. as we are friendly folks here ... we suggest:
1100720575 M * Bertl try with a vanilla kernel and linux-vserver patches, also get the latest tools (0.30.196) and you will be happy with debian too ...
1100720643 M * Bertl (of course, complaining to the maintainers would be a GoodThing(tm) too ;)
1100720836 M * zzyber Bertl, thanks.......yes debian development is steady but sloow. But i will try your suggestion.
1100720864 M * Bertl if you encounter any issues, do not hesitate to ask here ...
1100721109 P * zzyber Lämnar
1100722607 Q * lilo Read error: Connection reset by peer
1100722613 J * lilo_ lilo@lilo.usercloak.oftc.net
1100724562 M * Bertl vserver.13thfloor.at should work again ...
1100724617 M * Bertl Doener: are you working/planning to work on some php frontend for the logs?
1100724694 M * Doener if you didn't start working on it yet
1100724717 M * Bertl no, I did not, although I have some ideas for it ...
1100724966 M * Doener let hear
1100725018 M * Bertl for example, it should be simple to use grep/fgrep to search for arbitrary stuff over various logs and limit the time range (by day)
1100725055 M * Bertl (but probably google is doing a better job there ;)
1100725157 M * Bertl another idea was to make spacings between different 'chunks' of discussions  i.e. everything about 10 minutes get's a spacer line (maybe proportional to the amount of time?)
1100725201 M * Bertl of course netsplits have to be displayed in a nice and readable fashion
1100725242 M * ndim grep/fgrep? Be careful when invoking them with user supplied search strings...
1100725244 M * Doener hm, the spacing would need some intelligence to avoid a lot of spacing in slow hours...
1100725338 M * Bertl ndim: hmm? please elaborate what search string would confuse grep/fgrep -e '...' ?
1100725376 M * mugwump (??{ system("/bin/sh") }) ?  no, wait...
1100725448 M * ndim Bertl: system("grep '<<foo';rm -rf /;grep 'foo>>'"); where << >> limits the user supplied string :)
1100725490 M * Bertl ndim: of course you need to escape special characters with shellescape() for example
1100725521 M * ndim Or better even use execve() :)
1100725569 M * Bertl http://at2.php.net/manual/en/function.escapeshellcmd.php
1100725629 M * Bertl but yes, when using grep this has to be considered
1100725768 M * ndim Yupp. We had a compromise because of that a few weeks ago, and I got flamed over my advisory, so this issue is fresh and hot in my memory :)
1100725809 M * Bertl another idea would be to make a short stat (before/after each page) listing the 'performers'
1100725878 M * ndim But please don't collect information about the people, unless they specifically registered somewhere.
1100725914 M * Bertl well, not more as already stored within the logs ... 
1100725961 M * Bertl actually I was thinking of reducing the joins to something like: Bertl[2] joined  (where [2] is a footnote with the info)
1100725969 M * ndim In theory, you could create profiles with source ips, IRC names, real names, topics etc. pp...
1100725978 M * ndim Or just a hyperlink?
1100726017 M * Bertl hmm ... hmm .. hyperlinks have the problem that they lose the information when copy/pasted ...
1100726119 M * Bertl it might also be useful to have different colors for the participants, maybe special (i.e. fixed) colors for regular/known/registered users?
1100726851 M * Doener yeah, i guess Pinky will get uhm... pink! ;)
1100726859 M * Doener but yeah, i like the idea
1100726873 M * Doener back in a few...
1100726879 N * Doener Doener|brb
1100727689 M * Bertl okay, back later too ...
1100727707 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1100728696 N * Doener|brb Doener
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1100735623 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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